Simple question re the SUI Guide

[Grumpy]

Where can I find a recent copy of the SUI Inspection Guide?  I just need the link so I can print it out and give my sections copies to prepare for an inspection.  Thanks in advance.

[Short Field]

http://www.capmembers.com/cap_national_hq/inspector_general/inspections.cfm

[Ed Bos]

Does anyone else think they should make the SUI guide a pamphlet and post it where it's easier for everyone else to see it, instead of hiding it on the IG page?

[lordmonar]

Making it a pamplet makes it too hard to change.

But yes...it should be easier to find.

Like most things on E-services and Members pages.

[davidsinn]

Making it a pamplet makes it too hard to change.

But yes...it should be easier to find.

Like most things on E-services and Members pages.

This is the 21st century. It's no harder to change than a word doc. Something of this importance should be a pamphlet.

[jimmydeanno]

Making it a pamplet makes it too hard to change.

But yes...it should be easier to find.

Like most things on E-services and Members pages.

This is the 21st century. It's no harder to change than a word doc. Something of this importance should be a pamphlet.

It isn't physically hard to change (i.e. word doc), but once you put a pamphlet number on it, then it is subject to the rules of every other regulation.  They'd have to get approval from the NB to make a change, then incorporate the change into a draft pub, put the pub out for review, then get NB approval for the changed pub.  That's what would be hard to change.

[a2capt]

On the contrary, I like that it's a Word Document. I can take the sections I need and use them as a template to make my answers for the Inspector, using their exact wording.

As for "changing it" and making it hard, if a unit being inspected tweaks the guide so that it says something else, this is their problem As the Inspector is probably going to have the right one...

[lordmonar]

Making it a pamplet makes it too hard to change.

But yes...it should be easier to find.

Like most things on E-services and Members pages.

This is the 21st century. It's no harder to change than a word doc. Something of this importance should be a pamphlet.

Pamplets have to go through the NB for ratification......do you really want that?

[Grumpy]

http://www.capmembers.com/cap_national_hq/inspector_general/inspections.cfm

Thanks, that's what I needed.  I had it once before but couldn't remember where I got it.  I'm saving it to my desk top now.

[Phil Hirons, Jr.]

As for "changing it" and making it hard, if a unit being inspected tweaks the guide so that it says something else, this is their problem As the Inspector is probably going to have the right one...

Why yes, yes we will have the right SUI Guide.

An SUI is like an open book exam. You know the questions long before the test. If one wants to change the test and answer the wrong questions...

[Ed Bos]

Fun fact,

Making it a pamplet makes it too hard to change.

and

It isn't physically hard to change (i.e. word doc), but once you put a pamphlet number on it, then it is subject to the rules of every other regulation.  They'd have to get approval from the NB to make a change, then incorporate the change into a draft pub, put the pub out for review, then get NB approval for the changed pub.  That's what would be hard to change.

Aren't true.

According to the CAPR 5-4 Paragraph 3:

3. Supplements, Operating Instructions (OI) and Pamphlets. Supplements, OIs and pamphlets may be issued by any level of command unless specifically limited or prohibited by the regulation or manual governing the publication's subject matter.

The OPR (in this case the NHQ IG) can issue a pamphlet. If they National Board wants to have input that can use the chain of command to recommend changes to the OPR.

Incidentally, the NHQ staff writes the regulations (not talking about pamphlets here), CAP-USAF and the membership comment on them, the Executive Director reviews them after comments are included, and the National Commander approves them. The National Board is only a commenting body, along with the rest of the membership. At least, that's how it's spelled out (clearly) in the Pubs Reg.

[lordmonar]

Lots of other things that are spelled out in the regs that are not followed. 

[Ed Bos]

Lots of other things that are spelled out in the regs that are not followed. 

Truth, but wouldn't be swell if the rulebooks were consistent and followed?

[EMT-83]

Back to the OP, I've never had problems finding the info on the IG page. Actually, it's convenient to have everything in one place.

[Grumpy]

Back to the OP, I've never had problems finding the info on the IG page. Actually, it's convenient to have everything in one place.

Didn't mean to start any arguments here.  I just forgot where to look.  I kept looking at 123-3 hoping it might be an attachment.  Didn't think about the IG page.  I'll go back into hibernation now.