Recruit someone in another state?

Started by ElectricPenguin, October 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM

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ElectricPenguin

October 16, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Do I get the credit? How?

EMT-83

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October 16, 2011, 05:05:01 PM
Same as always, on the membership application.

ElectricPenguin

#2
October 16, 2011, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on October 16, 2011, 05:05:01 PM
Same as always, on the membership application.

Do they need my CAP ID or something?

davidsinn

#3
October 16, 2011, 11:10:02 PM
Quote from: ElectricPenguin on October 16, 2011, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: EMT-83 on October 16, 2011, 05:05:01 PM
Same as always, on the membership application.

Do they need my CAP ID or something?

How else would you get credit?
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

MSG Mac

#4
October 16, 2011, 11:43:57 PM
If you didn't get credit for recruiting the new member on the membership application. Just ask them and/or their squadron to write a letter giving you the credit.
Michael P. McEleney
Lt Col CAP
MSG USA (Retired)
50 Year Member

davidsinn

#5
October 16, 2011, 11:52:15 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on October 16, 2011, 11:43:57 PM
If you didn't get credit for recruiting the new member on the membership application. Just ask them and/or their squadron to write a letter giving you the credit.

It needs to be on file at NHQ to count.
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

MSG Mac

#6
October 17, 2011, 07:00:30 PM
CAPR 39-3 only calls for recruiting x number of new members. Nothing about  as certified by CAPHQ. If I were still a SQ/CC I would accept a letter from the recruitee or his commander stating that the cadet recruited the member.
Michael P. McEleney
Lt Col CAP
MSG USA (Retired)
50 Year Member

Fubar

#7
October 18, 2011, 06:10:27 AM
Quote from: MSG Mac on October 17, 2011, 07:00:30 PM
CAPR 39-3 only calls for recruiting x number of new members. Nothing about  as certified by CAPHQ. If I were still a SQ/CC I would accept a letter from the recruitee or his commander stating that the cadet recruited the member.

It's purely done at the squadron level. You should see how many ribbons our recruiting officer has been awarded, purely because he's the one anyone who inquires about our squadron gets sent to. They sign up, he takes credit on the application.

davidsinn

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October 18, 2011, 04:44:22 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on October 17, 2011, 07:00:30 PM
CAPR 39-3 only calls for recruiting x number of new members. Nothing about  as certified by CAPHQ. If I were still a SQ/CC I would accept a letter from the recruitee or his commander stating that the cadet recruited the member.

You are correct. I was mistaken.
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David Sinn

Eclipse

#9
October 18, 2011, 05:12:01 PM
Quote from: Fubar on October 18, 2011, 06:10:27 AMIt's purely done at the squadron level. You should see how many ribbons our recruiting officer has been awarded, purely because he's the one anyone who inquires about our squadron gets sent to. They sign up, he takes credit on the application.

Very uncool.  Something I disavowed for myself and my people.

I brought in any number of new members as a commander, the space on the app for recruiter was left blank.

"That Others May Zoom"

jimmydeanno

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October 18, 2011, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on October 18, 2011, 05:12:01 PM
Quote from: Fubar on October 18, 2011, 06:10:27 AMIt's purely done at the squadron level. You should see how many ribbons our recruiting officer has been awarded, purely because he's the one anyone who inquires about our squadron gets sent to. They sign up, he takes credit on the application.

Very uncool.  Something I disavowed for myself and my people.

I brought in any number of new members as a commander, the space on the app for recruiter was left blank.

I'm not sure that scenario is "uncool." 

I completely agree that simply because someone processes the paperwork, it doesn't mean that they should get recruiting credit.  Otherwise, we'd have personnel officers with 4 silver clasps.

However, I would expect that a recruiting officer WOULD have a large number of recruits.  Not in the sense that someone brings a potential member to the unit and they talk to the recruiting officer, but if the guy is the one handling all the cold calls for information, speaking at various organizations bringing people in the door, they should get credit for that.

Random people walking in the door that weren't brought by another member, the recruiting guy is the one that gets the sale because they are the ones that sold the organization.

I would be concerned if a recruiting officer didn't have a few awards of the recruiting ribbon.
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

Eclipse

#11
October 18, 2011, 05:28:49 PM
If the sole justification is his posting as recruiting officer, and he never saw that person before they joined, it's uncool.

Should the recruiting officer also get credit for everyone who joins after having a booth at the air show?

The intention of the recruiting badge is to recognize members when they bring someone in personally.

"That Others May Zoom"

SARDOC

#12
October 18, 2011, 05:53:46 PM
I agree, processing the paperwork is not sufficient enough to warrant the credit.  On the Other hand on the application is says "member most responsible for you joining CAP"  That is not exactly Recruiting in the traditional form.  However if someone shows up at the squadron based on the information on the website (without being recruited) and someone impresses them enough that the person decides that this is the squadron they want to join that person gets credit.   We encourage all potential members to list someone in that spot...someone who put their best foot forward and displayed the professionalism as an organization we want everyone to achieve.   
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