Phoney Army units among Chinese in Los Angeles

Started by dogboy, July 15, 2011, 03:41:15 AM

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JC004

Quote from: Eclipse on July 25, 2011, 02:24:49 AM
Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on July 25, 2011, 02:14:16 AMI think the above is a very good example as to why we in CIVIL Air Patrol need to embrace our "distinctiveness" in our uniforms and also our identification cards.  There should be NO question when anyone looks at us in CAP uniform to understand that we are in the CIVIL AIR PATROL.   Nationwide we need a very good public relations/marketing program so the public knows how to ID us and knows WHAT WE DO ACCOMPLISH FOR THE NATION.    I will readily admit that this is a big challenge for us, because overall the general pubic is inept at properly identifying military personnel, because only a small percentage have now served in the military, and likely most have no personal stake in the organization, so may not even pay attention to any media reports/presentations about us.

Let this serve as a warning.  Our recent past history saw some things done that reduced our distinctiveness and it cost some members a good chunk of money.

Blah, blah, blah.

How about, for starters, that unlike these goobers, and similar, we have a direct linage and operational part of a military service?

Something you seem to selectively forget or choose to simply ignore.

I don't know.  I don't see why we couldn't have PSAs called "How to Identify CIVIL Air Patrol Insignia" on TV, radio, and in full-page ads.  Maybe billboards with a picture of a uniformed member and arrows pointing to different parts of the uniform...

RADIOMAN015

Quote from: Eclipse on July 25, 2011, 02:24:49 AM
Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on July 25, 2011, 02:14:16 AMI think the above is a very good example as to why we in CIVIL Air Patrol need to embrace our "distinctiveness" in our uniforms and also our identification cards.  There should be NO question when anyone looks at us in CAP uniform to understand that we are in the CIVIL AIR PATROL.   Nationwide we need a very good public relations/marketing program so the public knows how to ID us and knows WHAT WE DO ACCOMPLISH FOR THE NATION.    I will readily admit that this is a big challenge for us, because overall the general pubic is inept at properly identifying military personnel, because only a small percentage have now served in the military, and likely most have no personal stake in the organization, so may not even pay attention to any media reports/presentations about us.

Let this serve as a warning.  Our recent past history saw some things done that reduced our distinctiveness and it cost some members a good chunk of money.

Blah, blah, blah.

How about, for starters, that unlike these goobers, and similar, we have a direct linage and operational part of a military service?

Something you seem to selectively forget or choose to simply ignore.
Well, your wrong on my attitude on that --- Because as the PAO I finally got the editor of the local paper to run the CAP Congressional Gold Medal Legislative Assistance from the Public story that National wanted us to try to get published that specifically talks about CAP's WW II service, and the editor actually added a sentence about our local unit being at the base for many years (we seem to think 50 years, but can't find a document to verify that, we can get it to 46 years based upon currently serving members documentation & memory, I was in the unit 1965 as a cadet).   I don't think many of the unit PAO's within my wing were successful in this.

Hey, I understand our history and I want to see all our members known well as CIVIL AIR PATROL and the public understands what we are and what we do for the nation.   HOWEVER, on the other hand they need to understand what we are not and what we don't do.
RM   

AngelWings

Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on July 25, 2011, 03:30:02 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 25, 2011, 02:24:49 AM
Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on July 25, 2011, 02:14:16 AMI think the above is a very good example as to why we in CIVIL Air Patrol need to embrace our "distinctiveness" in our uniforms and also our identification cards.  There should be NO question when anyone looks at us in CAP uniform to understand that we are in the CIVIL AIR PATROL.   Nationwide we need a very good public relations/marketing program so the public knows how to ID us and knows WHAT WE DO ACCOMPLISH FOR THE NATION.    I will readily admit that this is a big challenge for us, because overall the general pubic is inept at properly identifying military personnel, because only a small percentage have now served in the military, and likely most have no personal stake in the organization, so may not even pay attention to any media reports/presentations about us.

Let this serve as a warning.  Our recent past history saw some things done that reduced our distinctiveness and it cost some members a good chunk of money.

Blah, blah, blah.

How about, for starters, that unlike these goobers, and similar, we have a direct linage and operational part of a military service?

Something you seem to selectively forget or choose to simply ignore.
Well, your wrong on my attitude on that --- Because as the PAO I finally got the editor of the local paper to run the CAP Congressional Gold Medal Legislative Assistance from the Public story that National wanted us to try to get published that specifically talks about CAP's WW II service, and the editor actually added a sentence about our local unit being at the base for many years (we seem to think 50 years, but can't find a document to verify that, we can get it to 46 years based upon currently serving members documentation & memory, I was in the unit 1965 as a cadet).   I don't think many of the unit PAO's within my wing were successful in this.

Hey, I understand our history and I want to see all our members known well as CIVIL AIR PATROL and the public understands what we are and what we do for the nation.   HOWEVER, on the other hand they need to understand what we are not and what we don't do.
RM   
Interpretations run wild all the time when you give them the chance to. Cage 'em up by being a little more descriptive of what you are thinking, of course without writing an novel about it either.