cost of elpers?

[ElectricPenguin]

How much do the old, and new elpers cost?where could you buy them??? Just wondering...

[Eclipse]

The old-style are no longer available new, but they can occasionally be purchase on the secondary market
in the $150-300 range.

The new style go for $750.



http://www.ltronics.com/

[Spaceman3750]

The old L-Pers, when they very rarely become available, can be had on eBay or having a good network. The new L-Pers are $750 on the L-Tronics site plus a $70 case (you want one of these)

www.ltronics.com

EDIT: Beat by a hair.

[Major Carrales]

Use a scanner with the Aviation Band and body blocking and send me the other $600!!! 

[SarDragon]

The old-style are no longer available new, but they can occasionally be purchase on the secondary market
in the $150-300 range.

The new style go for $750.

http://www.ltronics.com/

The last two complete units I saw on eBay, many months ago, went for over $400 each, one with both the 121.5 MHz antenna and the 243 MHz antenna, and the other with just the 121.5 MHz antenna. A receiver by itself went for over $200.

[a2capt]

* a2capt wonders how much he could sell one for ...

(and then I could get one of the new ones, since I have two of the older ones)

[SarDragon]

* a2capt wonders how much he could sell one for ...

(and then I could get one of the new ones, since I have two of the older ones)

Throw it/them up on eBay. Put a minimum bid or reserve on them, and go for it. You should be able to clear at least $300 on each one, if they are the complete units, with case.

[starshippe]

. . if u have ur heart set on an l-per, i understand, i have one that goes with me wherever i go. i was lucky enough to get one of the last batch that were made. no, its not for sale.
. . if u have a problem with forking over $700 for a df unit, i understand. a $300 option would be a mk4 sniffer, which, with, say, a $165 bob miller antenna, might get u where u want to go. it will not do 243 mhz, but is synthesized for 120 thru 122 mhz aviation band, and the 143 thru 149 mhz ham/cap band. this would allow df training using any local aviation transmitter, such as the awos, or someone with a cap radio, if u only knew the frequency. (it will scan) i'm trying to get a 406 model built.

. . the antenna place:   http://www.rdfantennas.com/welcome.htm

. . the mk4:   http://www.foxhunt.com.au/2m_sniffer/manual.htm

. . there are several mk4 videos on youtube.

hope this helps,
bill

[EMT-83]

^ You seem to be missing several keys on your keyboard.

[AlphaSigOU]

Nope... that's starshippe's 'fist' (a CW/morse code term for someone's posting style). When he first posted, he was called on the carpet by the old heads here on CAPTalk, but he explained himself and I not suffering any agita over his posting style.

And now... back to our topic!   

[davidsinn]

Nope... that's starshippe's 'fist' (a CW/morse code term for someone's posting style). When he first posted, he was called on the carpet by the old heads here on CAPTalk, but he explained himself and I not suffering any agita over his posting style.

And now... back to our topic! 

I guess I'm an old head then. I called him on it because it shows laziness and unprofessionalism to use such poor writing. I use better grammar in my text messages on my phone. And don't give me anything about: "but I use a computer all day at work," because I used to work 10 hour days 4 days a week for almost three years before getting laid off. On average 9.5 hours of that was at my computer. You either behave like a professional or you don't.

[jks19714]

Is there some reason that UDFs don't use doppler direction finders while mobile?  I understand that the L-Per is a lot more useful when operating portable, but it seems to me that a doppler coupled with a laptop and GPS might give pretty fast results.  There are some pretty slick looking doppler RDF kits on the amateur radio market.

-- john

[davidsinn]

Is there some reason that UDFs don't use doppler direction finders while mobile?  I understand that the L-Per is a lot more useful when operating portable, but it seems to me that a doppler coupled with a laptop and GPS might give pretty fast results.  There are some pretty slick looking doppler RDF kits on the amateur radio market.

-- john

My guess would be cost. An Lper is cheaper than a laptop.

[sardak]

Is there some reason that UDFs don't use doppler direction finders while mobile?

Here are three CAP Talk discussions on this topic. There are other threads here that have scattered messages about Doppler DF units.

Doppler DF   http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=4246.0

DF Gear Evaluation   http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=11068.0

L-Per Alternative   http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=8573.0

Mike

[Eclipse]

Nope... that's starshippe's 'fist' (a CW/morse code term for someone's posting style). When he first posted, he was called on the carpet by the old heads here on CAPTalk, but he explained himself and I not suffering any agita over his posting style.

. . it

. . serves

. . no

. . purpose

. .  and makes him look like typing the English language properly is a skill he has yet to master.

[AlphaSigOU]

Nope... that's starshippe's 'fist' (a CW/morse code term for someone's posting style). When he first posted, he was called on the carpet by the old heads here on CAPTalk, but he explained himself and I not suffering any agita over his posting style.

. . it

. . serves

. . no

. . purpose

. .  and makes him look like typing the English language properly is a skill he has yet to master.

I agree with ya, the weird posting style can be annoying at times but it doesn't make me run to the hills with my hair on fire. Although I've seen worse texting styles.

[ßτε]

Nope... that's starshippe's 'fist' (a CW/morse code term for someone's posting style). When he first posted, he was called on the carpet by the old heads here on CAPTalk, but he explained himself and I not suffering any agita over his posting style.

And now... back to our topic! 

I have just decided to forgo reading this type of post.

[Eclipse]

Nope... that's starshippe's 'fist' (a CW/morse code term for someone's posting style). When he first posted, he was called on the carpet by the old heads here on CAPTalk, but he explained himself and I not suffering any agita over his posting style.

And now... back to our topic! 

I have just decided to forgo reading this type of post.

More support for the "mute" button.

[a2capt]

Yup. Be it as it may. But I too see it as plain old laziness, unprofessionalism and in general a lack of respect for whom you are speaking to, when I read stuff like that. So I just don't read it. I wonder how many others do the same.

Maybe I'm loosing out, maybe there could be an offer for a free million dollars in it, but somehow the odds against that are well in favor of it not being. Does a truck driver just drive sloppy on the way home because "well, I've been driving all day. I'm tired. I don't have to stop at that sign."

This isn't the HAM band. There is not a shortage of bandwidth here. The caps on service are not that bad that we need to skimp on characters. This isn't SMS.

Like a person that used to frequent our IRC channel constantly in the early 90s', "I type all day at work, I'm tired of it." ...and wondered why they got hardly any, if any, answers. 

Even L-pers have more bandwidth available to them.

[starshippe]

. . whether doppler or lobe switching, i think dfing while moving has disadvantages. i would prefer to find a large open space, pull well off the road, take a careful bearing, well away from the metal in the vehicle, and plot it using the current gps position. i think several of these would provide a better "fix" than one derived while in motion.

. . in addition, care must be taken while driving so that the driver is not distracted from his job.

bill