LEARN TO LEAD

MIKE · June 18, 2010, 11:55:15 PM

HGjunkie · June 19, 2010, 12:30:39 AM

I hope this is a condensed, easier to understand leadership text than the 21st century version. THAT one was hard to read. Maybe the online testing option will result in fewer stagnant cadets in the program.

Upon further reading: ACK! CAN THEY GET SOME CADETS WITH PROPER UNIFORMS???

I think they took some of the exact same cadets from the Leadership for the 21st century book, took more pictures of them, and stuck them in there.

I do like how they put picture guides for reporting, saluting, etc...

Okay, If they could make this any better, or if they keep it like it is, I would DEFINETELY consider switching over. But then again, I do like the option of taking a hand-written test or an online test depending on wether or not I switch over.

DC · June 19, 2010, 02:58:38 AM

What's so terrible about the uniforms? I skimmed the first module, and didn't see anything horrifically wrong.

I never had a major issue with L2K, though it was a little dry for some cadets, especially the younger ones. Aerospace Dimensions is at the other end of the spectrum, being written to the level of a 5th grader, or so it seems. Hopefully Learn to Lead can strike an appropriate balance between the two extremes.

HGjunkie · June 19, 2010, 03:10:19 AM

Wing patches on the blues and the one grade one CAP cutout thing on the collar.

I do agree that the older leadership texts were dry and hard to read...

DC · June 19, 2010, 03:23:57 AM

Quote from: HGjunkie on June 19, 2010, 03:10:19 AM
Wing patches on the blues and the one grade one CAP cutout thing on the collar.

I do agree that the older leadership texts were dry and hard to read...

They are just using some older stock photos. Wing patches were worn on blues, I think that went away in '05 or '06. Same with grade insignia on one side with cutouts on the other, which got the axe in '07 IIRC.

Good catch though.

jimmydeanno · June 19, 2010, 04:55:31 AM

Quote from: HGjunkie on June 19, 2010, 03:10:19 AM
Wing patches on the blues and the one grade one CAP cutout thing on the collar.

Fortunately for us, the leadership manual isn't the source for how to wear uniforms. The pictures are supposed to tell the story about the topic, not how to wear something.

It would be a shame if they dumped every photo we had every time there was a uniform change. No? Are the uniforms professional looking? Yep. So focus on the content rather than checking to see if ribbons are in the right order, ok?

JC004 · June 19, 2010, 05:16:39 AM

This looks like good work.

Yes, some of the uniforms are out of date, but I tried establishing some stock photography for PAWG a few years ago and it was HARD. PAWG is a BIG wing, so there should be plenty of opportunity to collect photos. Sure, nationally we're many times that size, but I imagine the problem is the same there. The main issue was correct uniform wear. I got A LOT of submissions. There was a lot of enthusiasm for our little gallery and folks here on CAPTalk used it as well, but if we had to dump the uniforms every time something like the branch tape, name plate, wing patch wear, etc. changed, we would have been totally screwed. The photography with PROPER uniforms was hard enough to get.

HGjunkie · June 19, 2010, 11:34:00 AM

Quote from: jimmydeanno on June 19, 2010, 04:55:31 AM
Quote from: HGjunkie on June 19, 2010, 03:10:19 AM
Wing patches on the blues and the one grade one CAP cutout thing on the collar.

Fortunately for us, the leadership manual isn't the source for how to wear uniforms. The pictures are supposed to tell the story about the topic, not how to wear something.

It would be a shame if they dumped every photo we had every time there was a uniform change. No? Are the uniforms professional looking? Yep. So focus on the content rather than checking to see if ribbons are in the right order, ok?

Their ribbons looked fine to me.

Cobra1597 · June 20, 2010, 09:37:24 PM

I'll admit to not having read these books in detail yet (oh yay, job for the next few days), but I already have a few gripes.

I'm not so happy with the lack of teaching concepts of "followership" in phase 1, the word doesn't even show up once in the text.

I'm not happy with their chain of command diagram, placing the "American people" at the top. While we have an ultimate philosophical and moral responsibility to the American people, they do not have a place in the chain of command. A senator cannot give us an order, a congressmen cannot give us an order, and the average American cannot give us an order or exercise authority or command over us. They are not in the chain of command.