Re-accepting a cadet

Started by CAPC/officer125, March 21, 2010, 06:57:38 PM

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CAPC/officer125

We had a cadet leave to go to a closer squadron and now is wanting to come back. I was wondering if there is anything against letting him/her come back? Is all that needs to happen a file change again or is there more that we need to do? 
C/LtCol Priscilla (Pat) Temaat
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jimmydeanno

Just another transfer is all that is technically required.  However, a conversation with said cadet might be beneficial to get a better understanding of the squadron hopping.
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

DBlair

I second the suggestion of having a conversation with the Cadet in order to figure out the root of the squadron hopping.

I've seen some Cadets switch to other units because they assume they will be getting a certain staff position, or because they assume the program is easier/better in a different unit, or out of disappointment because they were passed over for a position at the original unit, or even because the Cadet may feel that he/she was treated unfairly at a meeting, etc. Try to figure out the real reason and then address/resolve it, if possible, so that it does not continue to surface.
DANIEL BLAIR, Lt Col, CAP
C/Lt Col (Ret) (1990s Era)
Wing Staff / Legislative Squadron Commander

IceNine

All of the above and more should have been asked prior to the cadet leaving.  All to often members are allowed to leave the program or just a unit with nothing more than a file full of paperwork and a bunch of hard feelings.

I would suggest that the senior leadership have a very direct conversation to determine the root of the issues.

"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

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mbrown

Quote from: IceNine on March 22, 2010, 12:46:23 AM
All of the above and more should have been asked prior to the cadet leaving.  All to often members are allowed to leave the program or just a unit with nothing more than a file full of paperwork and a bunch of hard feelings.

I would suggest that the senior leadership have a very direct conversation to determine the root of the issues.

I agree, as the staff member who has the most direct contact with the cadets at my squadron, I always try to track down people we drop and discover why they left, and even then, I always try to stay on top of who is missing meetings in the 1st place, if they're losing interest in the program, and if so, why.
Michael S. Brown, C/2nd. Lt.
U.S. Civil Air Patrol

arajca

Remember, there is no requirement for a commander to accept a transfer.

lordmonar

And the loosing commander can VETO a transfer if the guy is trying to move due to problems.  (That is supposed to catch the guy who transfers because he's not getting promoted or is in some sort of trouble).

PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Cecil DP

You should run this by your Unit Membership Board. The Cadet left for a reason, and he is leaving his new unit for a reason. Find out what that reason is! Talk to the losing Commander and find out if there is a reason that he wants to come back. Also ask yourself. Do you really want this cadet back?
Michael P. McEleney
LtCol CAP
MSG  USA Retired
GRW#436 Feb 85

Westernslope

Quote from: CAPC/officer125 on March 21, 2010, 06:57:38 PM
We had a cadet leave to go to a closer squadron and now is wanting to come back. I was wondering if there is anything against letting him/her come back? Is all that needs to happen a file change again or is there more that we need to do?

How much closer was the new squadron? Perhaps he got there and decided he preferred to drive further to be back in his original squadron.  Things can vary a lot between squadrons. It may take a while to get established in a new squadron. Sometimes you have to experience it to understand it.

However, I agree with others, just ask him why the switch? There are times when interrogations are needed but often just a simple question will do the trick.

C/Martin

I do not think this has been mentioned, but it may not be about position or being closer. I do not know the cadet personally or the squadron, but I would check and make sure it was not a problem of a cadet being to the "transferee." The last thing you want is a cadet not feel safe within their squadron. Thank god though that all the CAP people I have met are very nice people.
Regards,
C/CMSgt
Todd Martin
Executive Officer/Chief
VA-023