Quote from: Major Carrales on April 28, 2011, 02:29:43 PM

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on April 28, 2011, 12:43:16 PM
4 years, supposedly a C/SNCO, and this is your attitude?

And how would you know this?  I am assuming you went back and looked at his post and did not violate e-services.  (just a friendly warning that the latter does happen)

Here: http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=12810.msg232748#msg232748

And here: http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=6280.msg232750#msg232750

He has put it forth on his own, no E-Services search necessary.(Hopefully, the above links will show in the proper manner for everyone else.)

Quote from: yeahididthat on April 28, 2011, 01:14:18 PM
I iron them religiously everyday unless I am out of town.

Nevermind what I typed. If you are a C/SNCO and talking about faded BDU's, I have no words.

Quote from: Major Carrales on April 28, 2011, 02:29:43 PM

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on April 28, 2011, 12:43:16 PM
4 years, supposedly a C/SNCO, and this is your attitude?

And how would you know this?  I am assuming you went back and looked at his post and did not violate e-services.  (just a friendly warning that the latter does happen)

I knew he was a cadet with his first post. 

The idea, cadence, responses, and manner of "speech" all said "cadet".

Quote from: HGjunkie on April 28, 2011, 03:05:05 AMI believe I unlocked the button after selecting the "fork over some more money" option. For BBDU types, I believe it becomes available after deciding what color shirt you want. 

We actually have BDU fading problem here in CAWG due to the nature of the ground team uniform.  You wear full BBDU to the search base, then leave the top behind and do all of your outdoor activity with an orange shirt.  When you come back in you switch back.

How much of this do you think it takes before the top & bottom don't match?

Quote from: Major Carrales on April 28, 2011, 02:29:43 PM

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on April 28, 2011, 12:43:16 PM
4 years, supposedly a C/SNCO, and this is your attitude?

And how would you know this?  I am assuming you went back and looked at his post and did not violate e-services.  (just a friendly warning that the latter does happen)

What others have said. I am college AWOL Cadet turned SM, waiting on Patron...

I have access to e-services, but no idea how to look up anyone up outside my Unit...

Either way, he said he was nearing Mitchell Award in one topic. That he was in for 4 years in another topic. That he is a C/SMSgt in a 3rd.

No magic needed.

Quote from: yeahididthat on April 27, 2011, 07:45:04 PM
I have a brand new pair of BDU's and i want them to look faded like salty marines BDUs. I hate the darker color of new BDU's.

As someone who is currently sitting in Iraq, and who daily sees Soldiers and Marines in faded uniforms from spending long, hot hours outside, I can only shake my head sadly and think that there is yet another cadet who truly doesn't understand what CAP is supposed to be about.

In 30 some odd years, I have seen a lot of cadets come down the line with this kind of attitude. Most of them quickly tire of CAP as they approach enlistment age. They join the Marines or the Army to go Recon or SF. You often see them a few years later working at a surplus store or a gun store. What happened to the military you ask them? "I hurt my knee" or "I had tinitis" they say. What usually happened was they got a bus ticket home from Benning or Parris Island with paperwork that said something to the affect of "UNABLE TO ADAPT TO MILITARY LIFE"

Quote from: ol'fido on April 28, 2011, 11:11:00 PM
In 30 some odd years, I have seen a lot of cadets come down the line with this kind of attitude. Most of them quickly tire of CAP as they approach enlistment age. They join the Marines or the Army to go Recon or SF. You often see them a few years later working at a surplus store or a gun store. What happened to the military you ask them? "I hurt my knee" or "I had tinitis" they say. What usually happened was they got a bus ticket home from Benning or Parris Island with paperwork that said something to the affect of "UNABLE TO ADAPT TO MILITARY LIFE"

I've seen this happen too. One cadet retired from his squadron (that I shall not name), enlisted in the Army and came back with a "Failure to Cope" discharge during Basic Combat Training. The guy always wore tactical gear and kevlar helmets on ground team missions. Please, don't be like this guy.

Quote from: yeahididthat on April 28, 2011, 01:14:18 PM
I iron them religiously everyday unless I am out of town.

I have a feeling this will change within the next few years as more demands are placed and time gets shorter.


I'm sitting here in pipeline (initial training) status and I've barely touched my iron except to touch up my blues before an inspection.  My ABUs have only seen an iron to remove chalk marks from placement of my stripes, same goes for my service dress jacket and lightweight blue jacket.  My BDUs (from CAP) see an iron MAYBE once in a blue moon simply to touch up what normal wear did to the dry cleaning.


Back in the day, I was high speed like yeahididthat, maybe not to the extreme, but I was still highly motivated.  What changed is that I learned tips and tricks to keep my uniform looking good, yet leave time to have a social life and get good grades in school as well as maintain a positive home atmosphere (read as not getting in trouble with the parental unit, for the most part).

Quote from: FlyTiger77 on April 28, 2011, 10:11:14 PM

Quote from: yeahididthat on April 27, 2011, 07:45:04 PM
I have a brand new pair of BDU's and i want them to look faded like salty marines BDUs. I hate the darker color of new BDU's.

As someone who is currently sitting in Iraq, and who daily sees Soldiers and Marines in faded uniforms from spending long, hot hours outside, I can only shake my head sadly and think that there is yet another cadet who truly doesn't understand what CAP is supposed to be about.

Good luck, Sir. Get home safe.

If you were an even semi-active cadet for four years, your BDUs would certainly show some fade. I've been in for a bit over two years and mine are getting there, but I grew and have to get a new set anyway. Then again, I consider myself to be a very active cadet.

I have been back in CAP for just shy of one year after getting out of the Army and I am already saying my uniform is too faded to look professional. It will work for a field uniform, but I am getting a new set this week.

At at-least 16 years old, other things SHOULD be pre-occupying you.

I'm hoping this cadet/ "cadet" is trolling or just messing with us. I got told off at my basic encampment for having somewhat faded BDU's. If they are faded it looks ratty, unprofessional, and puts a bad image on the rest of us. How about we look at it from a professional, uniform aspect instead of selfish?  the reason that you wear a uniform is to make you look like everyone else. that's what uniformity is.

Quote from: Starlock on May 02, 2011, 08:35:15 PMI'm hoping this cadet/ "cadet" is trolling or just messing with us. I got told off at my basic encampment for having somewhat faded BDU's. If they are faded it looks ratty, unprofessional, and puts a bad image on the rest of us. How about we look at it from a professional, uniform aspect instead of selfish?  the reason that you wear a uniform is to make you look like everyone else. that's what uniformity is.

I retired from the Army with several sets of fairly crisp BDU that I only wear because I still have a minty field jacket to go with them.  When it all starts looking bad (or is phased out)  I will replace it en masse with BBDU stuff.

Unfortunately in California with BBDU we have an entirely different fading problem - namely that if you are involved in ground team operations at all it doesn't take long for your BBDU top and bottom to cease matching shades.

Quote from: RVT on May 02, 2011, 09:35:15 PM

Quote from: Starlock on May 02, 2011, 08:35:15 PMI'm hoping this cadet/ "cadet" is trolling or just messing with us. I got told off at my basic encampment for having somewhat faded BDU's. If they are faded it looks ratty, unprofessional, and puts a bad image on the rest of us. How about we look at it from a professional, uniform aspect instead of selfish?  the reason that you wear a uniform is to make you look like everyone else. that's what uniformity is.

I retired from the Army with several sets of fairly crisp BDU that I only wear because I still have a minty field jacket to go with them.  When it all starts looking bad (or is phased out)  I will replace it en masse with BBDU stuff.

Unfortunately in California with BBDU we have an entirely different fading problem - namely that if you are involved in ground team operations at all it doesn't take long for your BBDU top and bottom to cease matching shades.

I may use that to push the idea of just a shirt that's orange for wear up the chain. Can't match shades with different colors.

When I ETS'd most of my BDUs weren't faded. They were a solid reddish brown from collar to cuffs. The volcanic clay dirt will do that. It usually took about two or three showers before I stopped looking like my BDUs.

BDU's should be tapered to the body (fit good) and look sharp. Faded is not sharp and it irritates me when I hear stuff like this. I 'm personally into perserving all of my uniforms until they reach the end of their usefullness and need to be trashed or recycled into other things (like making gear or becoming another item I'll keep for my future ). We all say and think weird things sometimes, and I for one, believe that asking to fade a new looking set of BDU's is weird, mainly because we all strive to have professional looking BDU's so we look the part of being a USAF auxillary, and fading (espically when nobody else has a faded set) breaks up uniformity in a few different respective. This type of comment makes me think of new blood trying to look like some movie character, or to just look "cool". There are only a few things that could/should be faded, like a high and tight,

Quote from: Littleguy on May 03, 2011, 06:25:39 PM
BDU's should be tapered to the body (fit good)...

Gonna need to see a reference on that. Blues, yes; don't think that applies to BDUs.

Quote from: Hawk200 on May 03, 2011, 08:27:48 PM

Quote from: Littleguy on May 03, 2011, 06:25:39 PM
BDU's should be tapered to the body (fit good)...

Gonna need to see a reference on that. Blues, yes; don't think that applies to BDUs.

Reason why I said should. An extremely baggy or spandex tight set of BDU's wouldn't look good.