I can find squadron lists, region lists, wing lists, but finding information on groups so far is elusive. Is a list maintained of groups?
The Organization table in CAPWATCH includes all units, including Group HQs.
I can tell you GAWG just went through a reorg recently, and there are some new groups and some shuffling around of units between the groups as other units were created/consolidated or eliminated.
Quote from: JeffDG on April 28, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
The Organization table in CAPWATCH includes all units, including Group HQs.
Excellent. I need to remember to look in there before asking questions like this...
You might not be able to find groups in WAWG, since the groups were disbanded over 8 years ago, under Col Maxwell.
I don't think South Carolina has groups either.
Here are the states with groups, along with how many they have:
AZ 3
CA 8
CO 3
CT 2
FL 6
GA 6
IL 5
IN 4
MD 3
MI 8
MN 4
MO 4
NC 5
NHQ 3
NJ 3
NM 1
NY 9
OH 6
PA 6
PR 8
TN 4
TX 7
VA 4
WA 5
WI 6
Anyone from NM care to opine on why you would have 1 group? Span of control doesn't make a lot of sense with just one.
I may be completely making this up, but I seem to recall that NM has a group set aside for it's school based units.
Quote from: JeffDG on April 29, 2015, 04:26:20 PM
Here are the states with groups, along with how many they have:
AZ 3
CA 8
CO 3
CT 2
FL 6
GA 6
IL 5
IN 4
MD 3
MI 8
MN 4
MO 4
NC 5
NHQ 3
NJ 3
NM 1
NY 9
OH 6
PA 6
PR 8
TN 4
TX 7
VA 4
WA 5
WI 6
Anyone from NM care to opine on why you would have 1 group? Span of control doesn't make a lot of sense with just one.
WAWG use to have five groups, but eliminated them.
Quote from: Eeyore on April 29, 2015, 05:22:04 PM
I may be completely making this up, but I seem to recall that NM has a group set aside for it's school based units.
About half way down the list......NM 1.
Sounds about right.
Quote from: Larry Mangum on April 29, 2015, 08:05:10 PM
WAWG use to have five groups, but eliminated them.
Not according to NHQ. They were all have commanders and everything.
WEST CENTRAL GROUP HEADQUARTERS (Lt Col Donald Long)
SOUTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS (Lt Col Kenneth Butler)
SOUTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS (Lt Col Karl Moore)
NORTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS (Lt col Russell Garlow)
NORTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS (Maj Vickie Scholla)
I can even tell which squadrons are assigned to which group:
NORTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS COLUMBIA BASIN COMPOSITE SQDN
NORTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS SPOKANE COMPOSITE SQDN
NORTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS PANGBORN COMPOSITE SQUADRON
NORTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS 21ST FAIRCHILD COMPOSITE SQUADRON
NORTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS NORTHERN DESERT COMP SQ
NORTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS OVERLAKE COMPOSITE SQDN
NORTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS NORTHSHORE COMPOSITE SQDN
NORTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS PAINE FIELD COMPOSITE SQDN
NORTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS SKAGIT COMPOSITE SQDN
NORTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS ARLINGTON COMPOSITE SQDN
NORTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS BELLINGHAM COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS TRI-CITIES COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS TWIN W COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS YAKIMA COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS INTER-STATE COMPOSITE
SOUTHEAST GROUP HEADQUARTERS BLUE MOUNTAIN COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS MOUNT SAINT HELENS COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS FORT VANCOUVER COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS MCCHORD AFB COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS SOUTH SOUND COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS MOUNT RAINIER COMPOSITE SQDN
SOUTHWEST GROUP HEADQUARTERS LEWIS COUNTY COMP SQDN
WEST CENTRAL GROUP HEADQUARTERS GREEN RIVER COMPOSITE SQDN
WEST CENTRAL GROUP HEADQUARTERS SEATTLE COMPOSITE SQDN
WEST CENTRAL GROUP HEADQUARTERS RENTON COMPOSITE SQDN
WEST CENTRAL GROUP HEADQUARTERS DUNGENESS COMPOSITE SQUADRON
WEST CENTRAL GROUP HEADQUARTERS PENINSULA COMPOSITE SQDN
Quote from: Eeyore on April 29, 2015, 05:22:04 PM
I may be completely making this up, but I seem to recall that NM has a group set aside for it's school based units.
That would explain the presence of 1 and only one group.
I stand corrected apparently Groups where brought back to wing in October of 2014.
Kentucky used to have groups but disbanded them for whatever reason. WIWAC there back in the day, the group structure there worked great. I wonder what, or who, happened.
Quote from: GroundHawg on May 02, 2015, 02:45:45 PM
Kentucky used to have groups but disbanded them for whatever reason. WIWAC there back in the day, the group structure there worked great. I wonder what, or who, happened.
Any units close? Might have been able to justify the span of control.
Quote from: THRAWN on May 02, 2015, 02:51:51 PM
Quote from: GroundHawg on May 02, 2015, 02:45:45 PM
Kentucky used to have groups but disbanded them for whatever reason. WIWAC there back in the day, the group structure there worked great. I wonder what, or who, happened.
Any units close? Might have been able to justify the span of control.
Wing wide, Im not sure. I know that in my group (NKY V), we actually added at least three squadrons that I remember, and one massive squadron split into four. Of those four two are left. Sad.