he so I was on facebook and I saw there was a fan page. [link removed]
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday. Delete it please.
The real CAPTalk Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/CAP-Talk/169726936430857
http://www.facebook.com/CAPTalk
Thanks for the link. I will add myself.
Quote from: JC004 on July 22, 2011, 01:06:37 AM
The real CAPTalk Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/CAP-Talk/169726936430857
What is the purpose of a Facebook page for CAPTALK? I am not sure I can see any added value to the CT web-site, just more confusion...
Banned with only one post....Nice.
Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday. Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.
Quote from: JeffDG on July 22, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday. Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.
CAP-Talk can control their image.
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 22, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on July 22, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday. Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.
CAP-Talk can control their image.
Facebook Terms of Service and intellectual property laws still apply.
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas. Free speech applies to speaking out against the government. Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.
I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage. Free speech.
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas. Free speech applies to speaking out against the government. Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.
I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage. Free speech.
Actually...wear it on your belt.
Quote from: JC004 on July 22, 2011, 06:22:59 PM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 22, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on July 22, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday. Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.
CAP-Talk can control their image.
Facebook Terms of Service and intellectual property laws still apply.
While taking the header from this page is wrong, anyone can create a fan page for anything. It just means they like it.
QuoteProtecting Other People's Rights
We respect other people's rights, and expect you to do the same.
- You will not post content or take any action on Facebook that infringes or violates someone else's rights or otherwise violates the law.
- We can remove any content or information you post on Facebook if we believe that it violates this Statement.
- We will provide you with tools to help you protect your intellectual property rights. To learn more, visit our How to Report Claims of Intellectual Property Infringement (http://www.facebook.com/legal/copyright.php?howto_report) page.
They only violated #1. So at best they can have FB take the image down but they can't have the page scrubbed.
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 22, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
CAP-Talk can control their image.
Actually no they can't. They can only control this website. What someone says in another venue is not under CT's control.
Quote from: JC004 on July 22, 2011, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas. Free speech applies to speaking out against the government. Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.
I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage. Free speech.
Actually...wear it on your belt.
Where it on my belt?
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: JC004 on July 22, 2011, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas. Free speech applies to speaking out against the government. Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.
I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage. Free speech.
Actually...wear it on your belt.
Where it on my belt?
The badge.
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: JC004 on July 22, 2011, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas. Free speech applies to speaking out against the government. Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.
I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage. Free speech.
Actually...wear it on your belt.
Where it on my belt?
There it on your belt!
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 22, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on July 22, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday. Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.
CAP-Talk can control their image.
In the same way CAP could control its image if it so chose.
"Fan" sites, provided they are not deceptive or trying to impersonate the item that they are fans of, do not violate trademarks for instance.
Just a basic primer of trademark. It's all about deceptive content.
I could go and create a captalk.org, and for example, have a site that's all about my love of baseball caps. Captalk.net would not have any trademark infringement case against me whatsoever, as no reasonable person would confuse the content.
Fan sites fall into much the same category, along with things like anti-fan sites...think of sites like http://www.walmartsucks.org/
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas. Free speech applies to speaking out against the government. Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.
I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage. Free speech.
Free speech prevents government action from censoring speech.
For example if you come onto my property, I'm completely free to tell you to shut up, and you have no free-speech right to tell me to pound sand. However, if you refuse, my only remedy is to uninvite you from my property, and if you refuse to leave, have you arrested for trespass. You would be arrested for being on my property without permission, not for mouthing off.
In the instant case, the operators of captalk.net are completely free to ban someone for creating something that they disagree with. They, however, have no right to demand that a third-party, ie. Facebook, take some action based on their displeasure.
The account is not banned for creating a fan page. The account is banned for a MCoC violation.
Quote from: JC004 on July 23, 2011, 02:08:45 AM
The account is not banned for creating a fan page. The account is banned for a MCoC violation.
I presume its the one about only one account, because the reset don't seem applicable.
Quote from: JeffDG on July 23, 2011, 02:04:15 AMFor example if you come onto my property, I'm completely free to tell you to shut up, and you have no free-speech right to tell me to pound sand. However, if you refuse, my only remedy is to uninvite you from my property, and if you refuse to leave, have you arrested for trespass. You would be arrested for being on my property without permission, not for mouthing off.
It depends what you say, some forms of speech these days are actually characterized as assault (such is the world we live in).
As to a "Fan Page" where the person or thing so loved says "knock it off", one would think if you actually respected the person or thing, you would.
(heh, I "liked" the "official" one, just so that JC004 has no idea what I'm up to now!)
That is the one and only thing I have ever liked, and ever will.
Quote from: Eclipse on July 23, 2011, 02:22:13 AM
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(heh, I "liked" the "official" one, just so that JC004 has no idea what I'm up to now!)
That is the one and only thing I have ever liked, and ever will.
I got the email.
Quote from: Eclipse on July 23, 2011, 02:22:13 AM
Quote from: JeffDG on July 23, 2011, 02:04:15 AMFor example if you come onto my property, I'm completely free to tell you to shut up, and you have no free-speech right to tell me to pound sand. However, if you refuse, my only remedy is to uninvite you from my property, and if you refuse to leave, have you arrested for trespass. You would be arrested for being on my property without permission, not for mouthing off.
It depends what you say, some forms of speech these days are actually characterized as assault (such is the world we live in).
As to a "Fan Page" where the person or thing so loved says "knock it off", one would think if you actually respected the person or thing, you would.
(heh, I "liked" the "official" one, just so that JC004 has no idea what I'm up to now!)
That is the one and only thing I have ever liked, and ever will.
When did you get a FB account?
Quote from: davidsinn on July 23, 2011, 02:34:51 AM
When did you get a FB account?
I don't even know - I don't use it. I've got a G+ and Twitter accounts, too. Same deal.
In fact I probably have live accounts on every major "social" service.
I have to be informed on the tech and the platforms to support clients, but I have no use for them.
To be clear, I only asked him to delete the "fan page". Mainly because it was lame. But also because it was a first post and seemed very suspicious. Later proved to be a duplicate account of a forum user, which is a no-no. I didn't ban him, a moderator did in the course of their duties here.
Quote from: whatevah on July 23, 2011, 03:57:40 PMLater proved to be a duplicate account of a forum user, which is a no-no.
Gotta wonder why people do stuff like that.
Quote from: Eclipse on July 23, 2011, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: whatevah on July 23, 2011, 03:57:40 PMLater proved to be a duplicate account of a forum user, which is a no-no.
Gotta wonder why people do stuff like that.
New Profile=New Opinions of that person
The new URL of the official page is: http://www.facebook.com/CAPTalk