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Started by ghost1, July 21, 2011, 11:57:37 PM

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ghost1

he so I was on facebook and I saw there was a fan page. [link removed]

whatevah

I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday.  Delete it please.
Jerry Horn
CAPTalk Co-Admin

JC004

#2

dalemill14z

Dale Miller

vento

What is the purpose of a Facebook page for CAPTALK? I am not sure I can see any added value to the CT web-site, just more confusion...

Flying Pig

Banned with only one post....Nice.

JeffDG

Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday.  Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: JeffDG on July 22, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday.  Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.

CAP-Talk can control their image.

JC004

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 22, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on July 22, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday.  Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.

CAP-Talk can control their image.

Facebook Terms of Service and intellectual property laws still apply.

Flying Pig

I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas.  Free speech applies to speaking out against the government.  Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.

I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage.  Free speech.

JC004

Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas.  Free speech applies to speaking out against the government.  Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.

I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage.  Free speech.

Actually...wear it on your belt.

davidsinn

Quote from: JC004 on July 22, 2011, 06:22:59 PM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 22, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on July 22, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday.  Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.

CAP-Talk can control their image.

Facebook Terms of Service and intellectual property laws still apply.

While taking the header from this page is wrong, anyone can create a fan page for anything. It just means they like it.

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  • You will not post content or take any action on Facebook that infringes or violates someone else's rights or otherwise violates the law.
  • We can remove any content or information you post on Facebook if we believe that it violates this Statement.
  • We will provide you with tools to help you protect your intellectual property rights. To learn more, visit our How to Report Claims of Intellectual Property Infringement page.

They only violated #1. So at best they can have FB take the image down but they can't have the page scrubbed.

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 22, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
CAP-Talk can control their image.

Actually no they can't. They can only control this website. What someone says in another venue is not under CT's control.
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

Flying Pig

Quote from: JC004 on July 22, 2011, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas.  Free speech applies to speaking out against the government.  Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.

I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage.  Free speech.

Actually...wear it on your belt.

Where it on my belt?

JC004

Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: JC004 on July 22, 2011, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas.  Free speech applies to speaking out against the government.  Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.

I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage.  Free speech.

Actually...wear it on your belt.

Where it on my belt?

The badge.

SarDragon

Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: JC004 on July 22, 2011, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas.  Free speech applies to speaking out against the government.  Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.

I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage.  Free speech.

Actually...wear it on your belt.

Where it on my belt?

There it on your belt!
Dave Bowles
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AT1, USN Retired
55 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

JeffDG

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on July 22, 2011, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on July 22, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: whatevah on July 22, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
I'm assuming that's yours... since it was just created yesterday.  Delete it please.
He has the same free-speech right to create a fan-page as the creators of CAP Talk have to create their site.

CAP-Talk can control their image.
In the same way CAP could control its image if it so chose.

"Fan" sites, provided they are not deceptive or trying to impersonate the item that they are fans of, do not violate trademarks for instance.

JeffDG

Just a basic primer of trademark.  It's all about deceptive content.

I could go and create a captalk.org, and for example, have a site that's all about my love of baseball caps.  Captalk.net would not have any trademark infringement case against me whatsoever, as no reasonable person would confuse the content.

Fan sites fall into much the same category, along with things like anti-fan sites...think of sites like http://www.walmartsucks.org/


JeffDG

Quote from: Flying Pig on July 22, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
I love how people believe that Free Speech means I can do anything I want with other peoples ideas.  Free speech applies to speaking out against the government.  Not taking someone elses property (CAPTalk symbols and names) and creating your own site.

I may just start a page called California Highway Patrol and use their badge as my homepage.  Free speech.
Free speech prevents government action from censoring speech.   

For example if you come onto my property, I'm completely free to tell you to shut up, and you have no free-speech right to tell me to pound sand.  However, if you refuse, my only remedy is to uninvite you from my property, and if you refuse to leave, have you arrested for trespass.  You would be arrested for being on my property without permission, not for mouthing off.

In the instant case, the operators of captalk.net are completely free to ban someone for creating something that they disagree with.  They, however, have no right to demand that a third-party, ie. Facebook, take some action based on their displeasure.

JC004

The account is not banned for creating a fan page.  The account is banned for a MCoC violation.

JeffDG

Quote from: JC004 on July 23, 2011, 02:08:45 AM
The account is not banned for creating a fan page.  The account is banned for a MCoC violation.
I presume its the one about only one account, because the reset don't seem applicable.