Vanguard CAP Sword (pictures)

[afgeo4]

Someone said Swords shouldn't be a part of CAP because we've never used them as weapons, historically speaking. Does that person think we should start issuing bombs to Colonels? We have historically used bombs as part of our mission.

[JC004]

Someone said Swords shouldn't be a part of CAP because we've never used them as weapons, historically speaking. Does that person think we should start issuing bombs to Colonels? We have historically used bombs as part of our mission.

Don't be ridiculous.  Would YOU trust a Colonel with a bomb??   

[MIGCAP]

Swords are to be issued to Members of the National Board for wear with the TPU. Teh concept is to facilitate the backstabbing which has been going on for years without designated weapon.

[Hawk200]

Someone said Swords shouldn't be a part of CAP because we've never used them as weapons, historically speaking. Does that person think we should start issuing bombs to Colonels? We have historically used bombs as part of our mission.

You're kidding, right? I don't think they have a place, but to even suggest bombs? Please, tell me you're joking.

[♠SARKID♠]

I think CAPblog quoted my Highlander quote. 

As long as I dont find out that Sean Connery joined CAP, I'm okay with that, lol

[RogueLeader]

Someone said Swords shouldn't be a part of CAP because we've never used them as weapons, historically speaking. Does that person think we should start issuing bombs to Colonels? We have historically used bombs as part of our mission.

Don't be ridiculous.  Would YOU trust a Colonel with a bomb??   

No, but maybe a hand grenade.

Back on topic:

How much for the sabre Col. B?

About $300, plus the $7 shipping

[BillB]

Caplaw,   Was asking $60 plus shipping.

[dougsnow]

I think only Marines (officers and NCOs) are issued Swords, Navy and Army Officers, and I think it needs to be left at that. They may use swords at USAFA, but no where in the active Air Force (except maybe  Washington) are Swords a part of USAF lore, at least I never saw a sword as part of a USAF mess dress uniform.

There is no history in CAP that is "sword-specific" or would justify the Sword as a realistic addition to the uniform, there is no history in CAP that is dependent on the Sword, unlike the Marines, and the history of the Mamaluke Sword in Marine Corps lore.

In the USMC D&C Manual there are whole chapters on Sword-related Drill and Ceremonies, and there is also a chapter on D&C for Swords at Weddings.

[MidwaySix]

I think CAPblog quoted my Highlander quote. 

Guilty.



- M6

[MIKE]

^ Makes me feel special.   

[SAR-EMT1]

1)
I was under the impression that (among Officers) Swords were given upon graduation from a Service Academy. So will this sword be presented upon completion of Iowa's OTS  or Nationals NSC or the like?

Anyone in the know feel free to correct me. 

2) Can those of you on the forum with a 'real' Military Sword/Saber/Pointy Thing post pics for comparison? - And maybe the circumstances of your coming into possession of said item. :angel:

Anyone have a link for the Sword Manual of Arms?   

3) Including the cost of this PointyThing^TM, what does Mess Dress add up to?


P.S )
I vote that all Nebraska Admirals or any CAP Officer wearing Mess Dress on a Cruise MUST equip themselves with this PointyThing^TM in order to repel boarders and open the pop tabs on beverages. (Kegs) 

- Donning Bunker Gear -

[ColonelJack]

1)
I vote that all Nebraska Admirals or any CAP Officer wearing Mess Dress on a Cruise MUST equip themselves with this PointyThing^TM in order to repel boarders and open the pop tabs on beverages. (Kegs) 

Oh, goody!  That means I get one!!!

Jack

[dougsnow]

Anyone have a link for the Sword Manual of Arms?   

Check out the USMC Drill and Ceremonies Manual, Chapter 5

http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/naval_science/Forms/DrillManual.pdf

[Skyray]

Anyone have a link for the Sword Manual of Arms?   

Check out the USMC Drill and Ceremonies Manual, Chapter 5

http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/naval_science/Forms/DrillManual.pdf

Wow!  You make me nostalgic.  I was a Midshipman, USNR in that outfit in 1957.  We learned the manual of arms for sword, and I never used it again, although I was expected to buy one when I got commissioned.  Dern thing is hanging on the wall right in front of me, even as I type.

[JohnKachenmeister]

By the time I got commissioned (Army) the saber was optional.  The only guys who ever bought them that I knew about were the guys commissioned into the Armor branch, since they considered themselves to be the heirs of the Cavalry tradition.

[LtCol White]

1)
I vote that all Nebraska Admirals or any CAP Officer wearing Mess Dress on a Cruise MUST equip themselves with this PointyThing^TM in order to repel boarders and open the pop tabs on beverages. (Kegs) 

Oh, goody!  That means I get one!!!

Jack

We could all be CAP (Civil Air Pirates) 

[Skyray]

Well, John, you know what they say about my service (Marine Corp).  Two hundred thirty-two years of tradition unspoiled by progress.  I was surprised to note in one of the posts in this thread that newly minted Marine Officers are no longer expected to purchase their swords.  As an aside to Calen, the gift of the sword to academy graduates comes from their family; it is a tradition, and least at Annapolis.  (I didn't go there, I just have a lot of friends who did.)

I was a wingie in the Marines, while the 03s might have still been using swords in ceremonies, we never did.  So I have this beautiful unused sword with a Mamaluke hilt hanging on my brag wall.

[ColonelJack]

[We could all be CAP (Civil Air Pirates) 

Arrrrrrr, Matey!  Avast, there, and swag out the bilge!  Hard a-starboard!  Bring the guns to bear! 

......sorry, I went away there for a moment, but I'm back now.

What the heck did I just say, anyway?

Jack

[JohnKachenmeister]

[We could all be CAP (Civil Air Pirates) 

Arrrrrrr, Matey!  Avast, there, and swag out the bilge!  Hard a-starboard!  Bring the guns to bear! 

......sorry, I went away there for a moment, but I'm back now.

What the heck did I just say, anyway?

Jack

But isn't "Civil Air Pirates" a great idea for a T-shirt or an unauthorized flight suit patch?

[JC004]

[We could all be CAP (Civil Air Pirates) 

Arrrrrrr, Matey!  Avast, there, and swag out the bilge!  Hard a-starboard!  Bring the guns to bear! 

......sorry, I went away there for a moment, but I'm back now.

What the heck did I just say, anyway?

Jack

But isn't "Civil Air Pirates" a great idea for a T-shirt or an unauthorized flight suit patch?

Where would we put it?  With AUXON/AUXOFF on one side and Transformers on the other, we're running short on space.