Length of time for SM Application Approval

Started by kd8gua, January 14, 2010, 06:33:48 PM

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davedove

Right, as soon as you are in the system, go ahead and get the training.  There are no grade restrictions on any of the training except for NSC.

I had my Level III done by the time I was a 1st Lt and have almost finished my Level IV as a Capt (only need RSC which I'll get this summer).
David W. Dove, Maj, CAP
Deputy Commander for Seniors
Personnel/PD/Asst. Testing Officer
Ground Team Leader
Frederick Composite Squadron
MER-MD-003

kd8gua

There always seems to be some new hiccup in my membership process. Today at the meeting, my CC let me know that my application was returned for a second time. This time it in fact did not make it to NHQ, but was bouncing around the USPS, who eventually returned it because of insufficient postage. So here's another month wasted... haha.
Capt Brad Thomas
Communications Officer
Columbus Composite Squadron

Assistant Cadet Programs Activities Officer
Ohio Wing HQ

SilverEagle2

QuoteThere are no grade restrictions on any of the training except for NSC

Not true. Some AF AU4/6 courses are grade restricted.

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they achieve great things because they choose to be excellent."
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SarDragon

There's a great way to avoid the insufficient postage hurdle - mail it at the post office. This seems to be inconvenient, but in addition to having the correct postag, you can get a receipt for reimbursement, or claiming on your taxes.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

davedove

Quote from: SilverEagle2 on February 03, 2010, 05:31:57 AM
QuoteThere are no grade restrictions on any of the training except for NSC

Not true. Some AF AU4/6 courses are grade restricted.

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I was talking only about the main CAP PD courses.  You are correct that some of the alternate classes do have requirements.
David W. Dove, Maj, CAP
Deputy Commander for Seniors
Personnel/PD/Asst. Testing Officer
Ground Team Leader
Frederick Composite Squadron
MER-MD-003

LtCol057

kd8gua, you might want to mail it to NHQ yourself.  Personally, I'd mail it Priority with a Delivery Confirmation. It will cost a little more, but at least that way you have a way of tracking it and you can go online and find out exactly when it arrives at NHQ.  Or for even a little more, you can send it Signature Confirmation, that way someone has to sign for it.   Only problem is IIRC while the renovations are ongoing at NHQ, some mail might be delayed.  I belief FedEx takes it direct to the person it's addressed to.  Not sure.  I know it's getting frustrating.  I renewed my membership 3 days ago and it's still not showing, but it's already been charged to my bankcard.

kd8gua

Unfortunately, the CC already re-mailed the two applications the following day they were returned. The cadet whose application was returned was also questioning the CC about this because she is ready to test for Curry and can't do anything yet... I hope this smooths out sooner or later.
Capt Brad Thomas
Communications Officer
Columbus Composite Squadron

Assistant Cadet Programs Activities Officer
Ohio Wing HQ

LtCol057

Sounds like the CC is not letting the Personnel Officer do his/her job.  Before I became the CC, I was the Personnel Officer for 15+ years.  The CC (and we had several) never got involved in the mailing of applications.  I did it all. 

Cecil DP

I would think that if they already had the fingerprints and check, it could be faxed
Michael P. McEleney
LtCol CAP
MSG  USA Retired
GRW#436 Feb 85

kd8gua

The problem with that was when NHQ sent my application back the first time, they sent the whole package back (check, prints and application). The CC sent in my package with a new cadet's package at the end of December. They bounced around the USPS for a while because of insufficient postage, and came back to the CC, who then re-sent the applications (mine for a 3rd time, the new cadet's for a second) last week.
Capt Brad Thomas
Communications Officer
Columbus Composite Squadron

Assistant Cadet Programs Activities Officer
Ohio Wing HQ

Johnny Yuma

I've seen turnaround as short as less than a week to show up on CAPWATCH, but that person was a former member and an LEO who sent copies of his credentials with the app. I suppose that shortened the background check considerably.
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" Skip a bit, brother."

"And then the Lord spake, saying: "First, shalt thou take out the holy pin. Then shalt thou count to three. No more, no less. "Three" shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. "Four" shalt thou not count, and neither count thou two, execpting that thou then goest on to three. Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade to-wards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuffit. Amen."

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kd8gua

Finally, only about 3 months after turning in my paperwork, I logged into eServices, and instead of the usual "Member is not eligible for online renewal" message, it took me right in to the message saying I needed to complete OPSEC. Once I can log in to those sites, I will be back in business!  :clap:
Capt Brad Thomas
Communications Officer
Columbus Composite Squadron

Assistant Cadet Programs Activities Officer
Ohio Wing HQ

vmstan

#32
I just got my CAP ID yesterday as well, some one at Maxwell must have decided to work through lunch.
MICHAEL M STANCLIFT, 1st Lt, CAP
Public Affairs Officer, NCR-KS-055, Heartland Squadron

Quote"I wish to compliment NHQ on this extremely well and clearly written regulation.
This publication once and for all should establish the uniform pattern to be followed
throughout Civil Air Patrol."

1949 Uniform and Insignia Committee comment on CAP Reg 35-4

kd8gua

Did some digging on my eServices, and even with my break in service, they have my join date as being April of 2002. I wonder if that's proof enough for wear of the Red Service ribbon.
Capt Brad Thomas
Communications Officer
Columbus Composite Squadron

Assistant Cadet Programs Activities Officer
Ohio Wing HQ

SarDragon

My first joined date is 17 Feb 1964. My latest join date is April 1987. Now that I look at eServices, there's no longer a distinction. Interesting.

Every time I'm eligible, for the next award of the Red Service, I have to submit copies of all the things that I have documenting my periods of service. I do not have my original CAPF 45, so I have to use old membership cards, certificates, etc. I get my 35 in two years.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

manfredvonrichthofen

What about a person with a DD214? How long is it usually to get a reply back from NHQ?

cap235629

Why did you send a DD214 to national?  It serves no purpose for them, it only should be in your file at the squadron to document your awards/decorations and any schools you are claiming as equivalent to PD.  National will more than likely just file it in the circular file.

In my experience it usually takes 3-4 weeks to get a response from National on a new member packet.
Bill Hobbs, Major, CAP
Arkansas Certified Emergency Manager
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manfredvonrichthofen

The Sq. Comm. Told me his had been kicked back for not having his DD214. Plus even if he didn't say so, I think I still would have because everyone and their dog seems to want the DD214 when you apply for anything, I'm waiting for Kroger to tell me they need one for my little perks card.