Pregnancy a Court Martial Offense

Started by Flying Pig, December 20, 2009, 05:33:58 PM

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sparks

National Board minutes shouldn't be considered binding until published as a regulation. Is there a reference somewhere that states NB minutes trumps standing regulations even when unpublished?

Most members won't bother to search through NB minutes when searching for regulatory guidance. They go to the On-Line regulations on the NHQ web site for a current reference. I don't believe the O-2 or O-9 has a caveat about searching NB minutes before consulting a regulation or form.

So, what's a well intended member supposed to do? No, I don't know of any pregnant cadets, thank goodness!

Eclipse

Quote from: sparks on December 21, 2009, 05:38:33 PM
National Board minutes shouldn't be considered binding until published as a regulation. Is there a reference somewhere that states NB minutes trumps standing regulations even when unpublished?

Yes, the CAP constitution and bylaws. 

"That Others May Zoom"

sparks

Wouldn't it be nice if there was a third list in addition to the O-2 and O-9 that contained NB minutes effecting regulations that had not been incorporated into a regulation. Of course the list would be amended to drop NB minutes  as regulations were changed. This would be an increased work load but worth it to keep the membership on track.

flyguy06

I know we have a code that says what happens overseas stays overseas but you guys would be surprised at what happens over there. 

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: flyguy06 on December 21, 2009, 07:32:23 PM
I know we have a code that says what happens overseas stays overseas but you guys would be surprised at what happens over there. 

Would it be that surprising? When you throw a whole bunch of college-aged kids together...

flyguy06

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on December 21, 2009, 07:37:47 PM
Quote from: flyguy06 on December 21, 2009, 07:32:23 PM
I know we have a code that says what happens overseas stays overseas but you guys would be surprised at what happens over there. 

Would it be that surprising? When you throw a whole bunch of college-aged kids together...

Not to me, but you have a lot of people that have this "impression" of our service members like they canjust do no wrong. But its more than just college aged folks. I know Maj's and Lt Col's doing the same stuff.

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: flyguy06 on December 21, 2009, 10:15:44 PM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on December 21, 2009, 07:37:47 PM
Quote from: flyguy06 on December 21, 2009, 07:32:23 PM
I know we have a code that says what happens overseas stays overseas but you guys would be surprised at what happens over there. 

Would it be that surprising? When you throw a whole bunch of college-aged kids together...

Not to me, but you have a lot of people that have this "impression" of our service members like they canjust do no wrong. But its more than just college aged folks. I know Maj's and Lt Col's doing the same stuff.

And again, it comes down to people...being people.

I've heard plenty of stories from recruiters I knew better than most, from friends, other enlisted folks, etc.

Short Field

Rank and age are no defense against zipper problems.   

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flyguy06

Quote from: Short Field on December 21, 2009, 10:34:07 PM
Rank and age are no defense against zipper problems.

lol. so true. Did you guys hear about the female three star gat accused a male twostar of sexual harrassment? My thinking is why didnt she just lock his heels and send him on his way? ;D

jimmydeanno

Follow-up: http://www.wmur.com/health/22036978/detail.html

General Coloco outlines a policy that says that pregancy is a court marshal offense, then says, "I have never considered court-martial for this, I do not ever see myself putting a soldier in jail for this," said Cucolo, who oversees U.S. forces in northern Iraq. But since pregnant women automatically go home, their units are left short-staffed..."

Why create a policy only to say that you never even considered enforcing it?  Doesn't make sense to me...
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

Ned

Quote from: jimmydeanno on December 22, 2009, 09:11:09 PM

Why create a policy only to say that you never even considered enforcing it?  Doesn't make sense to me...


Because there are a lot of options available to enforce the policy short of a court-martial.

Like an Article 15, effectively ending the career of the recipient.

Plus a lot of other adminstrative stuff that is available to enforce standards.