Question about taking the ACSC course

Started by flyguy06, November 22, 2008, 04:31:30 AM

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PHall

Finish the SOS first. In the AF, SOS is a prerec for ACSC.
Plus if you're a fast talker, you may be able to get the Guard to recognise it as PME that you have completed.
Makes a nice bullet statement on whatever is the Army equivalent of the OPR (Officer Performance Report).
Plus you get, IIRC, 24 retirement points too. That might be important on your 60th birthday.

DNall

Roger that, I was talking about the SOS seminar, but ACSC will be in my future as well. I kind of want to hold out & see if they'll open the masters option beyond AF.

You get joint PME credit for it in the Army, and as an aviation officer, I think it's highly appropriate to have all these AF courses done. However, you still have to do the Captain's Career Course (SOS equiv). I think ACSC will slide in for ILE though & I know AWC will fit. My intent is to knock thru these on the CAP side here early in my Army career. (Army LT with SOS & ACSC looks pretty dang sweet on an OER, CPT with AWC). I may still have to do the Army courses, but having the AF ones first sets me up to get some other advanced schools I'd really like to catch down the road.

So far I'm maxing points thru a couple voluntary extra duty assignments. But if it'll slide in there, I'll certainly take it. The guard maxes you at 28yrs of service unless you pop to O-6, and I'm 33yo anyway (as of tmrw), so I do need to make up some points anyway.

O-Rex

DNall

Happy Birthday!  ;D

Last time I looked at the ACSC website, there was mention that the course will eventually be opened to DAF and other Civilians with equivalent of Major.

Does anyone know someone in the AF who is currently taking the Master's program??  Some intel would be great.

O-Rex

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I took SOS and ACSC, and got a heck of a lot more out of it than any CAP course.  I don't really remember any of SLS or CLC, but there are elements of each of the Mil courses that really stuck with me and influence the decisions I make as a unit commander.

Remember that good, bad or indifferent, your Professional Development is a cumulative experience, and Military PME's significantly shape & contribute to it, and will go far beyond the initial appeal of just having an AU Diploma on your 'love me' wall.

I know that I continually 'beat the drum' on the subject, making numerous posts to that effect, but I truly believe that the more Mil-PME grads we have, the better and more credible we will be, both individually and as an organization.

Trung Si Ma

I took SOS And ACSC back in the 80's and they were both put in my Army records.  When my records went before a SNCO selection board, the Division G-1 got a call to confirm that I had actually taken them.  Who knows, maybe I got promoted because of them.  Their presence in my records did get me interviewed for a truly wonderful joint endeavor that I might not have been selected for otherwise.

I did AWC a couple of years ago, but was already retired.  It has helped in my civilian career.

One other point, all of the courses provided elective credits on my Baccalaureate and Masters degrees.

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