CAPWiki

[Nathan]

No member is truly anonymous. As I said, every member MUST have a Wikidot account to participate; there is no way to post anoynomously with the way I have the permissions set up. Anyone can LOOK at the Wiki, but if you want to participate, I get to see the IP and, if need be, ban the IP.

And, as I said, if, as you say, the CAPTCHA's don't work, then there isn't a way for me to fight spam. However, having looked at other Wikidot wikis for confirmation, I haven't seen any spam problem at all, so either they have vigilant moderators, or the system Wikidot is using works.

You really don't think former members who served in the sixties or seventies would have ANYTHING to contribute?

[Nathan]

Launch day is today. I know things are going to get started slowly, so I'm starting off building pages with lists so our "wanted pages" have a bit of variety.

I'll build this entire thing myself if that's what it takes to convince some people to help me out, so I hope you'll help me out. Feel free to contact me with any questions.

[Eclipse]

You really don't think former members who served in the sixties or seventies would have ANYTHING to contribute?

Not if the last time they served was in the 70's, and they have been non-members since, unless
you want to talk ancient history.

[harsh]
And as I've said, I don't see why anyone who can't be bothered to be a member, would be interested in sharing their "wisdom" with those of us making the effort.
[/harsh]

[Nathan]

Not if the last time they served was in the 70's, and they have been non-members since, unless
you want to talk ancient history.

Why not? CAP's been around for a while. It might be interesting to see some articles on "ancient history."

[harsh]
And as I've said, I don't see why anyone who can't be bothered to be a member, would be interested in sharing their "wisdom" with those of us making the effort.
[/harsh]

If they aren't, then they won't waste the time. If they are, then they will have their content and closely watched and easily edited as any other member of the board. And if I see that a member is screwing around, CAP member or not, then they don't get to play anymore. Seems pretty simple.

[Nathan]

Alright, so far, we're starting to build up the cadet pages. Shouldn't be surprising, considering that our only two contributing members right now are cadets.

I'd like to see some input from the senior side, even if it is just creating lists that increases our "wanted pages." For instance, you ES junkies could create a list of the ground team ratings, or a list of common equipment items used during missions. The cadets and cadet program people should have plenty to play with. I've already created a list of all known NCSA's, so anyone that's been to one should have SOMETHING to contribute.

I hope to see you there...

[Dutchboy]

No member is truly anonymous. As I said, every member MUST have a Wikidot account to participate; there is no way to post anoynomously with the way I have the permissions set up. Anyone can LOOK at the Wiki, but if you want to participate, I get to see the IP and, if need be, ban the IP.

You really need to be careful when you "ban IP's", When you ban IP's you could be banning a Public library and their computers or anyone else in a household. I have been told banning Ip's  is not good business. You end up denying honest folks chance to use your site because of someone elses actions.

You need to find out if you can ban the user not IP's.

[IceNine]

^ it may be bad business but, using public library accounts and such are the works of folks that want to be TOOLS (for the most part).  The amount of folks that actually would view, and on a larger scale post from a public library or the like are overall decreasing.  With the availability of broadband today the more common factor would be schools being banned because of some idiot.

I say is someone wants to be a turd and spam/spew.  Warn once, then ban away.

[Dutchboy]

So what do you propose to tell a low income cadet's family  that has the library as there only means of email, why they cannot post to the board? Libraries were only one example. Sorry I did not give you every example.

[Dutchboy]

I say is someone wants to be a turd and spam/spew.  Warn once, then ban away.

Why ban everyone at a school, library or where ever, for the actions of one person?  Why do they need to be punished?

[Nathan]

I say is someone wants to be a turd and spam/spew.  Warn once, then ban away.

Why ban everyone at a school, library or where ever, for the actions of one person?  Why do they need to be punished?

No, it's good advice, something I overlooked. I remember trying to edit some pages of regular Wikipedia from my school's computer network, and seeing that the IP was banned was frusterating.

Thanks for the head's up. I can definetely ban the user rather than just the IP, it'll just be more annoying if they decide to be persistent. It may just be a need to hire some moderators to help watch the boards if we ever get to that point.

[Eclipse]

I guarantee you that if you ban an IP, the odds it is on a shared computer that more than one CAP person uses are slim to none.  This isn't going to be wikipedia with 100 people using the same machine and editing docs.

[Major Carrales]

Have the "circle" closed, and invite lots of people that you can trust.  Much like the CAP COMM yahoo circle.  Everyone has to fess up to their identity.  Thus, you should never have spammers. 

Start with long time trusted CAPTALK folks, after a few months there should be a good influx of people dedicated to the project.

[Nathan]

Bump...

Alright, so I've been working pretty steadily on bringing the site up. I still haven't had much participation, but I didn't exactly expect this thing to shoot off on launch day anyway.

I've been spending most of my time compiling list pages that contain a bunch of links to pages that don't exist yet, such as lists of important people to CAP, list of ranks and positions in CAP, etc. I hope that this will give new users a place to start.

As always, I appreciate any feedback or advice you want to offer. I'm still running the show solo, so I need all the help I can get.

Thanks.

EDIT: Fixing the application process was easier than I thought...

Okay, so there are now two options to join the site after creating a Wikidot account. The first possibility is to provide the password. The password has been changed from "CAP", and will be given to members I can verify are people who want to help out on the project. Chances are if you are on this site, I can probably trust you, so shoot me a PM if you want to go this route.

For those of you who either don't want to go the password route, or for those who may not be on CS, CAPTalk, or know anyone who can/will give them the password, they can apply via application. The "application" is a 200 character text box allowing them to tell me a little about themselves. If I read through and can comfortably feel that they are trustworthy, then I can accept their application, and they will be admitted.

I hope this absolves everyone's concerns about spam and malicious users. Thanks again for the advice.