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The Best of Squadron Patches

Started by Pylon, January 09, 2006, 08:41:09 pm

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RiverAux

The ones posted in the last few days have been "correct".  I'm very confident it was brought up quite a bit when this thread was hot and heavy with submissions - it has been dormant for a while. 

Mustang

Quote from: A.Member on June 16, 2010, 05:59:09 am
Our newly approved squadron patch (as of 6.15.10)...with heraldry:



Love it!  Great design!

Quote from: HGjunkie on June 17, 2010, 01:15:20 am
I hate the new FLWG patch:

I personally like the old-skool patch, the one I wear:



There's nothing "old-skool" about that patch, my friend.
"Amateurs train until they get it right; Professionals train until they cannot get it wrong. "


AlphaSigOU

Bring back the 'pregnant alligator!' (Yes, Im Oooold School Florida Wing (former cadet-wise), and we know the Oooold School Florida Wing patch was the best wing patch...  ;D)
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

alamrcn

This thread off-shoot would actually be better in the Hysterical History section. But real quick....

Quote from: CadetProgramGuy
Squadrons are round, wing and higher are shields.

*substitute "group" for "wing"

Untill our organization makes this a standard, that shape guideline is for Air Force emblems only and is NOT a requirement for Civil Air Patrol emblems. Certainly, Air Force Instruction 84-105 (first published in 1985) is a useful reference for anyone in CAP designing an emblem. And a very few wings have even added patch design requirements to their CAPR39-1 suppliment based off the Air Force emblem heraldry guidelines.

Please do remember that many of our wing emblems were designed using Army Air Corps and Army Air Forces guidelines, and meet the standards of thier time. Their has been NO interest at the National level to moderize these hystorical wing-level emblems, although wings like Nevada and Florida have updated on their own.




Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

RickFranz

Quote from: alamrcn on June 23, 2010, 04:45:08 pm
This thread off-shoot would actually be better in the Hysterical History section. But real quick....

Quote from: CadetProgramGuy
Squadrons are round, wing and higher are shields.

*substitute "group" for "wing"

Untill our organization makes this a standard, that shape guideline is for Air Force emblems only and is NOT a requirement for Civil Air Patrol emblems. Certainly, Air Force Instruction 84-105 (first published in 1985) is a useful reference for anyone in CAP designing an emblem. And a very few wings have even added patch design requirements to their CAPR39-1 suppliment based off the Air Force emblem heraldry guidelines.

Please do remember that many of our wing emblems were designed using Army Air Corps and Army Air Forces guidelines, and meet the standards of thier time. Their has been NO interest at the National level to moderize these hystorical wing-level emblems, although wings like Nevada and Florida have updated on their own.


The problem is that in the Air Force you wear a Wing Patch on the right hand breast pocket not on the left shoulder.  So if we did all switch to the newer guidelines it would look really out of place. 
Rick Franz, Col, CAP
KSWG CC
Gill Rob Wilson #2703
IC1

BlueLakes1

Quote from: alamrcn on January 18, 1974, 08:52:30 am

Untill our organization makes this a standard, that shape guideline is for Air Force emblems only and is NOT a requirement for Civil Air Patrol emblems. Certainly, Air Force Instruction 84-105 (first published in 1985) is a useful reference for anyone in CAP designing an emblem. And a very few wings have even added patch design requirements to their CAPR39-1 suppliment based off the Air Force emblem heraldry guidelines.


We have incorporated design requirements in our 39-1 supp in Indiana. We reference 84-105 and list it as a guide, though we don't mandate 100% compliance. We do, however, require that shapes be used at the proper echelon, and that aquamarine and gold be incorporated. Of course, we do have unit emblems that were approved before that are grandfathered floating around, too.

QuotePlease do remember that many of our wing emblems were designed using Army Air Corps and Army Air Forces guidelines, and meet the standards of thier time. Their has been NO interest at the National level to moderize these hystorical wing-level emblems, although wings like Nevada and Florida have updated on their own.


History is exactly why we haven't looked at updating our wing patch, and won't. Plus, if we tried to incorporate our elements into a heater shield, you get something close enough to the 1st Special Operations Wing patch that we didn't want to go there.
Col Matthew Creed, CAP
GLR/CC

Eagle400


DC

Interesting design, but I would have stuck with the white text. Red on blue is really hard to read.

SarDragon

While it's too late for that unit, here's commentary for anyone else contemplating new patches.

The manufacturing style of the patch above, with partial embroidery on a fabric background, as the advantage of being cheaper. The primary disadvantage is that they shrivel when washed. The patch above shows the tendency already, and after three or four washings will look terrible. A fully embroidered patch is the only way to go.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

Eagle400

Quote from: SarDragon on June 25, 2010, 08:40:06 pmThe manufacturing style of the patch above, with partial embroidery on a fabric background, as the advantage of being cheaper. The primary disadvantage is that they shrivel when washed. The patch above shows the tendency already, and after three or four washings will look terrible. A fully embroidered patch is the only way to go.


Good point; the one on my old BDU's has definitely seen better days.  :/ 

(Though they do look nice on the flight suit)

...But don't tell anyone I said that.

:)

Irishrenegade



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http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/255/squadronpatch.png

This one was created this year for our squadron.
Designer credit: 2dLt Chris Dare and 2dLt Rob Maucere


This was researched by the both of us heavly and it meets all USAF standards. (this actual picture is for the coins we are making...just imagine the Motto and SWR-OK-113 being rockers)


Colors:
Black- Constancy
Red- Warrior or martyr; Military strength and magnanimity
Gold- Generosity and elevation of mind
Blue- Truth and loyalty
White- Peace and sincerity


Squadron Mascot: Pegasus- Poetic genius and inspiration. Flame tip below head signifies powered flight. Wings in an upward position (designed after a Vol) signifies Swiftness and protection.


Chevron: Protection; Builders or others who have accomplished some work of faithful service. Also has Raguly design which signifies difficulties that have been encountered.


Stars: Divine quality from above. There are three for the three mission of Civil Air Patrol.


Motto: Vacatio ad servitium "Called to Serve"



So as you can see...we not only made a cool looking patch but it has a ton of meaning within it. We are very proud of it and look to wear this patch proudly with all that it stands for.
SWR-OK-113
Assistant Deputy Commander of Cadets|Information Technology Officer
Is laige ag imeacht as an gcorp í an phian


NY Bred and now in OK

Lancer

Chris, great looking patch!  :clap:


Also, Kudos to you for following AF Heraldry, and sticking with the correct patch shape for a squadron!

Can't wait to see it stitched!

If you haven't found a vendor, patches4less.com does a great job.

Eclipse




Irishrenegade

@Eclipse and @ Lancer Thanks! We are trying to find a vendor as we speak actually...this has been a slow process. The drawings we did started in January and after about 12 versions we finished with this and it only took the wing commander 6 hours to approve it last week! but yea anyway I will check that site out for sure!
SWR-OK-113
Assistant Deputy Commander of Cadets|Information Technology Officer
Is laige ag imeacht as an gcorp í an phian


NY Bred and now in OK

biomed441

August 20, 2010, 12:22:43 am #614 Last Edit: August 20, 2010, 12:56:44 am by Captainbob441
Thanks for the kind words Eclipse and Lancer. Thanks for the link as well. We have a few people working on vendors ATM, but always good to see some more sources.

And for relief of the imagination, heres the edited version with rockers.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8955/patch.png

vmstan

Correct shapes be darned! (We've had this since the squadron started in 2006)




I've seen the heraldry for it, I just don't have it to explain all the different bits.
MICHAEL M STANCLIFT, 1st Lt, CAP
Public Affairs Officer, NCR-KS-055, Heartland Squadron

Quote"I wish to compliment NHQ on this extremely well and clearly written regulation.
This publication once and for all should establish the uniform pattern to be followed
throughout Civil Air Patrol."

1949 Uniform and Insignia Committee comment on CAP Reg 35-4

Lancer

Quote from: Marshalus on August 20, 2010, 01:19:07 am
Correct shapes be darned! (We've had this since the squadron started in 2006)


Text in the field is a no-no too!  ;)

vmstan

Yeah, it was designed by cadets, and approved by Wing, all long before I had anything to do with CAP. But I can't make any excuses for design flaws ;)
MICHAEL M STANCLIFT, 1st Lt, CAP
Public Affairs Officer, NCR-KS-055, Heartland Squadron

Quote"I wish to compliment NHQ on this extremely well and clearly written regulation.
This publication once and for all should establish the uniform pattern to be followed
throughout Civil Air Patrol."

1949 Uniform and Insignia Committee comment on CAP Reg 35-4

Lancer

All in good fun Mike...all in good fun.  :P

I do like the design, and the color choices too.

biomed441

Random question. Is there any CAPTALKer familiar with blazoning or know someone who is and would be willing to assist with writing up a blazon? I know the basics, but when things get complex, I get lost.