This is the new LA Wing HQ patch
Here is the patch I designed for the 91st All Iowa Squadron that was recently approved by the IAWG/CC.
Pylon, the only patch I've so far seen that meets the guidelines of Air Force heraldry was the 10XX one. I can't believe that so many people claim that their patches meet the standard when they've obviously not read the material.The USAF clearly states that the Shield type patches are to be used for Command, MAJCOM, and Wing patches. Group patches are usually rockers and odd shapes. Squadron patches are Pie type patches with rockers on top and bottom. The top rocker states the designation of the unit (514th AGS or So-and-So Composite Sqdn or NER-NJ-504) while the bottom rocker sports the motto. In USAF, the MAJCOM patch is worn on one pocket of the BDU while the Wing patch is worn on the other. The squadron patch, if worn, is placed half way from name tape to shoulder. That's why you don't see the Pie type patch on pockets in the Air Force. It isn't that complicated, so why isn't everyone on board?As far as Syracuse Comp Sqdn patch, I will forward a redesign of the patch tomy superiors ASAP to be implemented with the next patch order.
Quote from: afgeo4 on February 14, 2006, 09:58:39 PMPylon, the only patch I've so far seen that meets the guidelines of Air Force heraldry was the 10XX one. I can't believe that so many people claim that their patches meet the standard when they've obviously not read the material.The USAF clearly states that the Shield type patches are to be used for Command, MAJCOM, and Wing patches. Group patches are usually rockers and odd shapes. Squadron patches are Pie type patches with rockers on top and bottom. The top rocker states the designation of the unit (514th AGS or So-and-So Composite Sqdn or NER-NJ-504) while the bottom rocker sports the motto. In USAF, the MAJCOM patch is worn on one pocket of the BDU while the Wing patch is worn on the other. The squadron patch, if worn, is placed half way from name tape to shoulder. That's why you don't see the Pie type patch on pockets in the Air Force. It isn't that complicated, so why isn't everyone on board?As far as Syracuse Comp Sqdn patch, I will forward a redesign of the patch tomy superiors ASAP to be implemented with the next patch order.The problem begins with the simple fact that we don't place the patches in the same place as the AF. So should we go with the AF standard that patches on the pocket should be shields or that it is a squadron patch and us that information. Also, most of the wing patches don't follow the standard set forth in the Air Force heraldry, so to be different from the wing patch, squadrons have been using shields. the best option would be to completely follow the Air Force heraldry standards, starting with the Wing Patch and placement of patches. I don't see that happening though.SJT
Anyway, the point for BDU's is pretty lost since the new ABU has no patches authorized what so ever. The AF already authorized CAP to wear the ABU once it becomes available, so if/when CAP issues the order, I suspect our patches will be gone too. We shouldn't nix the patches all together though... we'll still be wearing Zoom Bags with lots of purdy patches on them.
Mike, you quoted my comment about the LA patch but were talking about the Iowa patch.
The French invade Iowa recently? Dang beat me to it. Not that I like it much, but here's ours:
OK - now I am confused. You say this is >your< unit's insignia?Maj. Owen Younger was one of the IC's down at Katrina, and was wearing that patch as well. Even if he was a wall flowere before (which he doesn't appear to be, I would think he received some visibility when he got back and since.You really aren't aware of him?