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The Best of Squadron Patches

Started by Pylon, January 09, 2006, 08:41:09 pm

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DC

I heard some RUMINT the other day that suggested FLWG will shortly be getting a new patch..

Has anyone else heard about this?

Lancer

Quote from: DC on June 15, 2009, 08:22:41 pm
I heard some RUMINT the other day that suggested FLWG will shortly be getting a new patch..

Has anyone else heard about this?


Let's hope so, because the CAP Seal patch is about as 'generic' as one could get for a wing patch.

The only way that patch would ever work, and what I think the creator of that idea was thinking when he made that happen was, to have every wing wear that design with rockers designating your wing. Which I doubt anyone would do, and would sooner not wear a wing patch than do that.

BuckeyeDEJ

New Florida Wing emblem? Not looking likely.

Within the last few weeks, a wing policy letter mandating the wear of wing patches (after National made them optional) was rescinded. That policy letter had been written by an alleged associate of HWSRN before that individual was kicked up to command SER.

After the guy who replaced THAT guy was replaced, the interim Florida commander designed a challenge coin that some thought "might make a nice wing patch." As someone who deals with design, I thought it was a flawed idea -- too much little detail to work well as an emblem, plus no original elements. That "nice wing patch" sentiment was RUMINT.

If anything, I'd like to see the heritage gator emblem put in a shield and presented again. Someone floated a "new" gator, one that appeared angry and not helpful at all, clutching a first-aid box as if to say "try and take this from me." But there's nothing wrong with the heritage gator, save for the white underbelly on the animal.

Hmmm... maybe I have a project to undertake, breaking out Illustrator to do an updated FLWG emblem!


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davidsinn

Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on June 15, 2009, 10:04:31 pm
New Florida Wing emblem? Not looking likely.

Within the last few weeks, a wing policy letter mandating the wear of wing patches (after National made them optional) was rescinded.


So does that make INWG the last mandated wing patch wing?
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jimmydeanno

Quote from: davidsinn on June 15, 2009, 10:14:44 pm
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on June 15, 2009, 10:04:31 pm
New Florida Wing emblem? Not looking likely.

Within the last few weeks, a wing policy letter mandating the wear of wing patches (after National made them optional) was rescinded.


So does that make INWG the last mandated wing patch wing?


Nope, NH is in the list too.
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Quote from: jimmydeanno on June 15, 2009, 10:29:41 pm
Quote from: davidsinn on June 15, 2009, 10:14:44 pm
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on June 15, 2009, 10:04:31 pm
New Florida Wing emblem? Not looking likely.

Within the last few weeks, a wing policy letter mandating the wear of wing patches (after National made them optional) was rescinded.


So does that make INWG the last mandated wing patch wing?


Nope, NH is in the list too.


Certain squadrons require it too.

alamrcn

Minnesota's is too, but let's not tie up this thread with that stuff. That's just asking for a lock!



The "updated" gator based loosly off Zack Mosley's drawing, never went anywhere as far as becoming the next Florida Wing patch. In fact, I first saw it immeadiately after the corprate creast concept appeared. Probably created in a little frustration

I believe I posted this squadron patch here or in another thread before, but if you hadn't seen it...

My thanks to Bill Breeze for helping me preserve a copy of this patch, as the unit has disbanded and it probably would have been lost to history.




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PHall

Quote from: jimmydeanno on June 15, 2009, 10:29:41 pm
Quote from: davidsinn on June 15, 2009, 10:14:44 pm
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on June 15, 2009, 10:04:31 pm
New Florida Wing emblem? Not looking likely.

Within the last few weeks, a wing policy letter mandating the wear of wing patches (after National made them optional) was rescinded.


So does that make INWG the last mandated wing patch wing?


Nope, NH is in the list too.


It's required in CA too.

DC

June 16, 2009, 10:59:33 am #568 Last Edit: June 16, 2009, 11:04:50 am by DC
Here's a picture I was sent of what I referred to previously...



alamrcn

Quite tame compaired to the boldness of the gator patch, but a very desent design and layout. And WAY better than the current patch!

The 8 stars might be a nod back to the old charter system (08xxx), but I don't recognize the constilation if it is one. The stylized aircraft delta and contrail might reference the space program in Florida. The compass rose could mean almost anything you wanted it to.

Thanks for sharing it!




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DC

Quote from: alamrcn on June 16, 2009, 02:21:34 pm
Quite tame compaired to the boldness of the gator patch, but a very desent design and layout. And WAY better than the current patch!

The 8 stars might be a nod back to the old charter system (08xxx), but I don't recognize the constilation if it is one. The stylized aircraft delta and contrail might reference the space program in Florida. The compass rose could mean almost anything you wanted it to.

Thanks for sharing it!
From what I heard the eight stars symbolize FLWG's eight Groups. I don't have the full heraldry, but I was thinking the same thing about the delta and contrail. It would be the only real reference to Florida on the patch, and the space program is a big part of our AE and Homeland Security missions...

Ozzy

Quote from: DC on June 16, 2009, 02:57:47 pm
From what I heard the eight stars symbolize FLWG's eight Groups. I don't have the full heraldry, but I was thinking the same thing about the delta and contrail. It would be the only real reference to Florida on the patch, and the space program is a big part of our AE and Homeland Security missions...


Hm..... if you use your imagination a little bit, the navy blue can look like florida.... same general shape.... when I first saw the patch I also thought the delta was a symbol of the current space shuttle with the contrails.
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BillB

June 16, 2009, 07:09:28 pm #572 Last Edit: June 16, 2009, 07:13:59 pm by BillB
DC    Florida Wing originally had four groups. not eight. Group 1 was Miami, Gp 2 Jacksonville, Group 3 Tampa, Group 4 the Panhandle. After the number of groups increased to over 20, the Sector System was started and the old Gp 1 area bcame sector A, Gp 3 Sector B Gp 2 Secor C. Thus the Sector letters moved from south to north in the Wing
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DC

Quote from: Ozzy on June 16, 2009, 06:47:20 pm
Quote from: DC on June 16, 2009, 02:57:47 pm
From what I heard the eight stars symbolize FLWG's eight Groups. I don't have the full heraldry, but I was thinking the same thing about the delta and contrail. It would be the only real reference to Florida on the patch, and the space program is a big part of our AE and Homeland Security missions...


Hm..... if you use your imagination a little bit, the navy blue can look like florida.... same general shape.... when I first saw the patch I also thought the delta was a symbol of the current space shuttle with the contrails.
Yeah, sorta, but I don't think that was intentional... The delta is generic enough to stand for any launch vehicle, since Florida is the launch site for most of NASA and the Air Force's unmanned launches, in addition to being the sole launch site for the shuttle, and in a few years the Constellation Program.

Quote from: BillB on June 16, 2009, 07:09:28 pm
DC    Florida Wing originally had four groups. not eight. Group 1 was Miami, Gp 2 Jacksonville, Group 3 Tampa, Group 4 the Panhandle. After the number of groups increased to over 20, the Sector System was started and the old Gp 1 area bcame sector A, Gp 2 Sector B etc.
I know it has varied over the years. When I joined the were 13. However, there are currently eight groups, seven geographical and Group 800. The group explanation was from my friend that told me about this, and sent me the picture. 

MIKE

I thought this thread was about squadron patches?


Mike Johnston

DC

Quote from: MIKE on June 16, 2009, 07:40:17 pm
I thought this thread was about squadron patches?
By the thread title, it is, but is it a huge crime for it to deviate a little into a wing patch discussion?

MIKE

Yes, punishable by death... and thread lockage.  I would have put this one on ice eons ago, but it's Pylons baby.


Mike Johnston

alamrcn

Perhaps the ever wise Pylon could submit an addendum to rename the thread "Best of Unit Patches" for more flexability of the discussion  ;)

Here's one I just got in this month...


Get it?  ;D
Thanks for not locking the thread.





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BuckeyeDEJ

Quote from: DC on June 16, 2009, 10:59:33 am
Here's a picture I was sent of what I referred to previously...





Wow. Never saw that before. Doesn't exactly say "Florida" to me, and relies on cliched devices too much.


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PHall

Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on June 17, 2009, 04:18:45 am
Quote from: DC on June 16, 2009, 10:59:33 am
Here's a picture I was sent of what I referred to previously...





Wow. Never saw that before. Doesn't exactly say "Florida" to me, and relies on cliched devices too much.


I like it, it looks like something the Air Force would use.