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Stonewall
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« on: March 31, 2008, 11:16:43 AM »

Just some things to remind you to pay attention to what's going on around you.





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Stonewall
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2008, 11:20:48 AM »

Some more fun pics for your pleasure.





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Stonewall
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2008, 12:16:58 PM »

Regarding the pic of the soldier with Senator Clinton:



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The picture shows that this soldier has been thru Survival School and learned his lessons well. He’s giving the sign of “coercion” with his left hand. These hand signs are taught in survival school to be used by POW’s as a method of posing messages back to our intelligence services who may view the photo or video.

This guy was obviously being coerced into shaking hands with Hillary Clinton. It’s ironic how little she knew that he would so inform us about the photo—perhaps because she’s never understood our military to begin with.

Verification from snopes.com with an explanation of the crossed fingers:

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Military history includes many instances when soldiers who fell into the hands of the enemy were trotted out before photographers or television cameras by their captors for purposes of propaganda: — to create false images intended to trick audiences into believing that the prisoners were actually well-cared for, sympathized with their captors, or were voluntarily denouncing the political policies of their home countries.

Likewise, military history includes many instances in which such captured soldiers managed to inserted subtle and furtive signs into propagandistic images to express their defiance, to indicate that the information they were relaying was false, or to signal that they were acting under duress.

(One of the most well-known examples of this phenomenon is the infamous middle finger gesture employed by the crew of the USS Pueblo in photographs after their ship was captured by North Korea in 1968.)




Verification from truthorfiction.com adds a follow-up from the subject himself:

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The answer is that he did intentionally cross his fingers during the handshake and it did mean that he was not thrilled to shake Senator Clinton’s hand.

After his discharge from the Army, the soldier posted a personal profile on Yahoo Personals as part of looking for introductions to single females.

In his profile, he includes the picture with Hillary and explains:

"The picture of me and Hillary Clinton was taken when she came to visit Iraq. I was actually ordered to shake her hand, and I never figured that my friends would circulate it all over the net. I AM NOT a Hillary fan by any stretch."
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nesagsar
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2008, 12:24:52 PM »





The red guy with the sniper rifle might want to turn around.
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SSgt Rudin
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2008, 01:06:35 PM »



IS it just me or is the first and second row of the generals ribbons at 0 spacing and the rest at 1/8" spacing?

And I think that guy is picking his nose on purpose, he's looking right at the camera.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2008, 01:54:03 PM »


IS it just me or is the first and second row of the generals ribbons at 0 spacing and the rest at 1/8" spacing?

I doubt they're messed up, could just be his slouch or the angle.  He's got a guy, probably a Sergeant, who is responsible for putting his uniform together.  They should all be 1/8" spacing.

And I think that guy is picking his nose on purpose, he's looking right at the camera.

I doubt he's doing it on purpose.  He's an officer, probably Major or Lt Col.  He's squinting his eyes in search of the big kahuna, so I'm not so sure he's purposely looking at the camera.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2008, 02:13:50 PM »

Some more fun pics for your pleasure.







My question is how did she get to wear civilian cloths in country?
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Stonewall
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2008, 02:26:05 PM »

Maybe she's Air Force. I heard the AF practices "civilian clothes Friday".  Plus, the only person in uniform is the Colonel getting his freak on.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2008, 03:21:32 PM »

I just noticed, check out Gen Shinseki's right hand.  He's about to give his coin to that NCO.

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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2008, 03:48:47 PM »

Just some things to remind you to pay attention to what's going on around you.




This one is already on it's way to my Navy cousin, and his AF brother!  Should be some interesting replies later this evening...
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2008, 04:50:58 PM »

Alright, all these pics had me laughing...HARD. It just goes to show that situational awareness should be used no matter where you are, why you're there, and who is with you. Just ask the nose picking Army guy (no disrespect to our Army members here).
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2008, 05:17:27 PM »

Regarding the Sidewinder skating down the deck, that was not a situational awareness mistake. It was not fired. It merely came off the rail due to the deceleration of the arrested landing. When installed on the rail, the missile is slid on from the front, and is held in place by a spring loaded detent mechanism. Sometimes the spring weakens, allowing the missile to slide off during landing.

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DETENT, DETENT LOCK, DETENT-LOCK SOLENOID, AND SNUBBERS.- The detent, detent lock, detent-lock solenoid, and forward snubbers (fig. 3-19) make up an electromechanical system that restricts longitudinal and lateral motion of the mounted missile. This system prevents accidental launch or release during catapult takeoff or arrested landings. A slotted detent wrench/safety pin is installed through the mechanism assembly to prevent movement of the aft detent and to safe the launcher firing circuits. It is also used to raise the aft detent lug sufficiently to clear the missile hanger during loading. The slotted detent wrench/safety pin is removed before flight. When the detent is down (normal), the striker points make contact with the buttons (contacts) on the forward hanger of the missile. The forward striker point does not have a function for the missile; the aft striker point makes contact between the missile and the firing safety switch.

Bottom line - mechanical malfunction.
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Dave Bowles
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2008, 06:22:33 PM »



IS it just me or is the first and second row of the generals ribbons at 0 spacing and the rest at 1/8" spacing?

And I think that guy is picking his nose on purpose, he's looking right at the camera.

Oy Gevalt!!!   A guy is picking his nose in the pic and you guys try to find a Uniform snafu on an Army General?  The UNIFORM POLICE are alive and WELL in the CAP!!!  (just kidding 2d Lt Rudin  ;))
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2008, 07:56:21 PM »

Actually, the scary part about that AIM-9 Sidewinder is that is a "live" War shot.  If you look closely, you will see the brown band on the rocket motor and the yellow band on the live warhead.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2008, 08:20:23 PM »

Actually, the scary part about that AIM-9 Sidewinder is that is a "live" War shot.  If you look closely, you will see the brown band on the rocket motor and the yellow band on the live warhead.

If I recall my ancient 'Winder knowledge correctly, the missile isn't armed unless it is actually fired from the rack. I've seen two of these myself, and there were no detonations either time; they just fall into the water off the end of the angle deck.
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Dave Bowles
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2008, 01:21:01 AM »

Yes and no, while a AIM-9 is safe normally, as long as properly grounded, an AIM-9 has a contact fuse with the warhead cavity as well as an influence fuse. The influence fuse would be safe, but a contact fuse is a contact fuse and may go off, if the missile hits something with enough force.  Also it is possible to accidentally ignite a rocket motor with just static electricity. Of course that is a later generation AIM-9 (> =L version) and the influence fuse has been replaced with a lser fuse and I cannot remeber if they kept the contact fuse in that version or not.

I served 4 years in the Air Force as a 31651L working on AIM, AGM, Laser and Optical weapons.
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2008, 01:21:42 AM »



IS it just me or is the first and second row of the generals ribbons at 0 spacing and the rest at 1/8" spacing?

And I think that guy is picking his nose on purpose, he's looking right at the camera.

Oy Gevalt!!!   A guy is picking his nose in the pic and you guys try to find a Uniform snafu on an Army General?  The UNIFORM POLICE are alive and WELL in the CAP!!!  (just kidding 2d Lt Rudin  ;))

Well, if we must . . .

His unit citation is over the seam of the pocket, his "US" brass is too angled (even for the Army), he doesn't have his hat on outdoors, and bald-headed jumpwings on generals is just wrong.

Not bad for a guy who takes the black berets away from the Ranger Regiment and gives them to everyone (all made in China, of course).  He's worse than some of the uniform geeks in CAP (If I make everyone look cool, then they'll be cool).

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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2008, 01:31:21 AM »

wawgcap, thanks for the 'Winder update. I never worked directly with them myself, but cal'd the test equipment for the rails, and knew some ordies who passed on info.
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Dave Bowles
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2008, 12:27:39 PM »





The red guy with the sniper rifle might want to turn around.

Screen shots of video games don't count.
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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2008, 12:37:12 PM »

I thought you had it...Oh, I thought you had it.
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