New Achievement Award

[IceNine]

I hope that the ribbons on all of the medal's aren't crooked like that.  It looks terrible lopsided as it is.

[James Shaw]

After looking at some of the rm active service achievement medals the concept of a blank planchet doesnt seem all that bad.

Opinions?

[Eclipse]

Until you can actually buy the ribbons and mini-medals its all academic.

You don't award someone a decoration and then give them a coupon for future purchase.

[James Shaw]

Until you can actually buy the ribbons and mini-medals its all academic.

You don't award someone a decoration and then give them a coupon for future purchase.

It is now available from Vanguard. They sent me an email and it is on the website now. It can be ordered.

[arajca]

After looking at some of the rm active service achievement medals the concept of a blank planchet doesnt seem all that bad.

Opinions?

It's one thing if the planchet was designed without lettering as your examples were. It's another if it wasn't, but someone 'forget' to include the lettering when they created the die for the planchet.

[Cecil DP]

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After looking at some of the rm active service achievement medals the concept of a blank planchet doesnt seem all that bad.

Opinions?

It's one thing if the planchet was designed without lettering as your examples were. It's another if it wasn't, but someone 'forget' to include the lettering when they created the die for the planchet.

Actually, If I were into collecting a mistake like that would make it valuable. Sort of like a coin with two heads or the inverted Jenny postage stamp.

[adamblank]

Sounds like it just has to get incorporated into the 39-3 or an ICL and it can start to be awarded.

[BuckeyeDEJ]

After looking at some of the rm active service achievement medals the concept of a blank planchet doesnt seem all that bad.

Opinions?

It looks fine to me without lettering, though after looking at the Air Force's counterpart, I wonder why so many of our medals are round....

(I know, I know, that horse has been beaten a bit.)

[Eclipse]

For one thing round medals (and coins, etc.) are cheaper as they use standard molds and dies.

Something like that Sears pocket screwdriver on the left above would have real expensive set-up charges.

[BuckeyeDEJ]

Yeah, but Vanguard makes the Air Force's medals, right? Can't we piggyback on molds, if not dies? Is CAP (and that's "see-ay-pee," not "cap") paying the freight on all its insignia, even if CAP doesn't sell it itself?

[MIKE]

Speaking of the no-text die for the Achievement Medal.  An interesting thing about the Coast Guard Auxiliary is that all of the mini medals use one of two different dies for the medals themselves, and of those most are bronze. Only the DSM is silver, IIRC.  The drapes are the distinguishing part.

Auxiliary Achievement Medal (AAM):

[BuckeyeDEJ]

Someone mentioned an ICL -- NO! NO! NO! Stop this ICL madness! Let's see some regulation changes!

Actually... Let's see official criteria for how and when this should be awarded! Too much hearsay. CAP can't be led by urban legend or folk stories. Regulations, regulations, cut and dried.

[Eclipse]

Let's see official criteria for how and when this should be awarded!

There can't and won't be much detail on how these are awarded, anymore than other decorations have detail.

They are subjective awards, approved by the Group CC at the time.

We'll have plenty (probably too many) of these given out as consolation prizes for people who had comm-comms bounced, and some Groups where they will never be considered.

[BuckeyeDEJ]

There is some guidance in CAPR 39-3 for each decoration. There needs to be guidance for this award, as well.

Otherwise... someone who did a great feat in, say, California, to get one could've gotten it in, say, West Virginia, just for sneezing in the opposite direction of the wing king. That's not going to fly.

[Eclipse]

So the criteria for awarding this will be subject to whomever is a commander.

That's how it works with every subjective decoration today, and from what I understand in the compensated services as well.

For this and the comm-comms, especially, its whatever the approving commander feels is "commendable" - we see people all the time getting ESA's for keeping the windows of an airplane clean as POC, while other members busting 60-hour CAP weeks get certs of appreciation.

Such is life.

[James Shaw]

The current Achievement Medal will stay as produced. It is still a nice design.

[SilverEagle2]

Now on to the Eaker Mini Medal 

[Eclipse]

Has the order of precedence been indicated?

If not, you can't even put it on your rack when they start making them.

[MIKE]

Civil Air Patrol: Putting the cart before the horse since 1941.

[James Shaw]

Has the order of precedence been indicated?

If not, you can't even put it on your rack when they start making them.

right before the commanders comm