Question for al you GT gurus

[Eclipse]

I think it also needs to be said, in many areas, you have GOB's who "know better" wandering around the ramp with an old scanner touching the antenna BNC to every plane until they find it because "we never get crashes around here".

Even though they "have been doing this for 30 years" and "you're not about to show me how to do this...", when you hand them an L-Per or a Tracker, you might as well have put a Tricorder in their hand, because they have about equal ability to us them.

Shoot / plot a bearing using an L-Per?  Yeah, right. First, they'd have to have a compass. 

So when they get into scenarios / real-worlds which are not on the ramp they fly from, they are a team liability.

(These are also usually the same guys who get hacked off when they are denied a "Find" for deactivating an ELT based on a call from the FBO without ever involving CAP)

[Walkman]

I'm looking at getting GTM3 finished this spring then going to NESA. I contacted Micheal Long in charge of the advanced school to ask about doing GTM 2,1 or GTL (I also noticed that the reqs were similar). He told me that since I was new to CAP, it would be best for me to go for GTM 2,1 and do GTL later. YMMV...

[isuhawkeye]

from my experience.

if a search manager tasks a member into the field, and that person gets hurt doing something (even if it is silly) and that skill is listed in a higher certificatioon level.  All of the supervisors will have opened themselves to some form of liability.

just my thughts

[BlackKnight]

Another point I saw somewhere on one of the posts:
A ground team is restricted to performing at the level of the lowest supervised member.

Got to call the BS flag on this one!

It only takes one guy to do your maps...one guy to process clues...etc. 

As much as I agree with you practically, it came straight from 60-3, page 14.

Actually, CAPR 60-3 P. 14 says:
"Teams will be expected to operate to the level of the lowest supervised member."
Note that the casual substitution of the word "restricted" for "expected" can change the entire meaning of the regulation.  When "expected" is used, it provides the GTL and the IC the flexibility to decide what missions and deployment durations a particular team can handle based on their knowledge of the mission and the team's preparation and equipment.  Practical example: An all-GTM1 UDF team doing a routine ramp check can't  be redirected on an overnight SAR sortie if they left their 72-hr gear at home.

[Dragoon]

One point to note,
  You CAN become a GTL with just GTM-3 but you are limited to only being able to lead a team that is GTM-3 Capable.

You are going to be much better off to get all 3 levels of GTM and then get your GTL, or at least make sure that you backfill those quals.


You will be much more useful if you are a GTM-1/GTL

There are no national standards for "GTM-3 level teams", or any other level team.

GBDs can give any task to any team, taking into account the training and equipment of the members.

There are no requirements I know of limiting a "GTM-3 GTL" to only leading GTM-3s.