Opsec training for cadets

[flyguy06]

I am trying to get my cadets their opsec training. Its proving to be a challenge. I need to get them al together at one location that has internet access and do the training.

[Camas]

Isn't there a way that the course can be conducted in a classroom environment without internet access and then entered into e-services by the unit commander?  Seems to me that the unit commander now has a special permission in "commander's corner" that allows him or her to do that.  Anyone else know for sure?

[RiverAux]

Does the cadet training have to be done as a group?  Most cadets are plenty internet-savvy enough to take the course online like the rest of us. 

[stillamarine]

It can either be done online or in a classroom setting. We are having an ES lock in at the local FBO this weekend and one of the things we are doing is OPSEC.

[Eclipse]

Just have them take it at home, school, or the library.  We're talking about 5-10 minutes reading slides and clicking.

[mikeylikey]

^ That clicking can be difficult for some!   

[flyguy06]

Some of my cadets dont have computers at home. They are all new to CAP, so it would a task for me to ensure they do it. i could tel them to do it and it my be a month later and I am stil telling them to do it. I want to getit knocked out of the way. I didnt know if we could do it as a group or not. I will try that and get the CC to enter it by their CAPSN.Thanks

[Lancer]

Just have them take it at home, school, or the library.  We're talking about 5-10 minutes reading slides and clicking.

If it were only that easy Bob. For you, me and 98.7% of the other senior members sure, you as a commander can say 'please complete the OPSEC training by next weeks meeting', and expect it to be done.

I can't tell you the number of times in the last year where I've asked my cadets to get something done at home and we go weeks, sometimes months before it gets done. Sorry. I'm not doing that with getting this OPSEC requirement out of the way. They've made provisions for a classroom environment and I'm going to take advantage of it. Then if you have one or two stragglers, you can sit them down at the next meeting, have them review the slides and sign the electronic NDA.

[flyguy06]

I agree with Mark. This is important and I want to make sure its done in a timely manner.

[FW]

If a cadet who hasn't taken OPSEC tries  to access E-Services, they will be taken to the OPSEC training page automatically.  It takes only a few minutes to complete.  When done, they may access e-services.  No muss... no fuss.

[Pylon]

If you give a classroom briefing to members about OPSEC, how could NHQ let you "put them in the system" for OPSEC manually?  None of them have agreed to the NDA.  Makes no sense.

[Lancer]

If you give a classroom briefing to members about OPSEC, how could NHQ let you "put them in the system" for OPSEC manually?  None of them have agreed to the NDA.  Makes no sense.

Mike, this help?

Immediately after completion of OPSEC training insert a copy of this report into each member's personnel file,
place the original in the unit's master file, and report completion online  in Ops Qualifications.  If members from
several units participate in training at one location, copies of this report must be provided to each participant's unit
so that completion can be properly documented, and the unit conducting the training will retain the original in their
master file. Members who have not completed OPSEC training and signed the NDA either online or in a unit
classroom will not be given access to online services or allowed to participate in operational missions.  Unit
commanders and their designees have access within Ops Qualifications to record completion of OPSEC training and
signing the NDA.

[RogueLeader]

It's basically they agree, and you put them in under a restricted OpQuals module.

[Major Carrales]

If you give a classroom briefing to members about OPSEC, how could NHQ let you "put them in the system" for OPSEC manually?  None of them have agreed to the NDA.  Makes no sense.

There is not a module in e-services where a Commander, and several designees (up to five) can administer OPSEC in a classroom setting and certify it on line.

It is in Operation Qualifications section/ EMERGENCY SERVICES/SINGLE PERSON ACHIEVEMENT tab.

[Lancer]

There is not a module in e-services where a Commander, and several designees (up to five) can administer OPSEC in a classroom setting and certify it on line.

These aren't the Ops Quals you are looking for...move along...move along. 

[Pylon]

So you print out the NDA, they sign it, and you file that somewhere? 

A verbal agreement of this type doesn't carry the weight that an agreed to NDA does.  I'm just curious how this works.  Some members agree to it online, in person - others just give the nod to their CC or another staff member and get put into the system as "agreeing"?

[Lancer]

So you print out the NDA, they sign it, and you file that somewhere? 

A verbal agreement of this type doesn't carry the weight that an agreed to NDA does.  I'm just curious how this works.  Some members agree to it online, in person - others just give the nod to their CC or another staff member and get put into the system as "agreeing"?

The cadet signs the form.

Go to the link for the OPSEC testing portal and:
"Click to Download New OPSEC Training Package (2132 KB)"

It's got all you need.

[Slim]

So you print out the NDA, they sign it, and you file that somewhere? 

A verbal agreement of this type doesn't carry the weight that an agreed to NDA does.  I'm just curious how this works.  Some members agree to it online, in person - others just give the nod to their CC or another staff member and get put into the system as "agreeing"?

One question we asked, and haven't had answered yet is "How do you make a minor child agree to anything?"

No offense intended to the cadets 'round these parts, but if you ain't 18, you can't sign a contract for any reason.

Sure, they can sign a hundred NDAs, problem is how can we enforce it since they can't legally be held accountable for anything?

Ned?  Your comments are usually pretty insightful when it comes to legal stuff.

[Pylon]

The cadet signs the form.

Where does the form go?  Is it filed locally or sent to HQ?

[dwb]

My gosh Mike, read the thread you're posting in!

Lancer answered your question yesterday: "Immediately after completion of OPSEC training insert a copy of this report into each member’s personnel file, place the original in the unit’s master file, and report completion online in Ops Qualifications."