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Question: What would you do?
Blow it off, there ain't nuthin wrong with it.   -1 (1.7%)
Confront the home owner politely.   -30 (50.8%)
Call the cops since the tags are expired.   -16 (27.1%)
Put a note on the car   -2 (3.4%)
Slash the tires.   -10 (16.9%)
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JohnKachenmeister
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2007, 04:36:05 PM »

Stop by the shore and pick up a nice dead 'n bloated fishy for that open window.

Tedda, your random interjections of resounding satirism never cease to entertain.  :)

Satirism?

I put that into my book of "Creative Solutions!"
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2007, 05:29:52 PM »

The car:  When I moved in last year, the home owner, "Hawk" as we'll call him, asked me if the car sitting in front of his house bothered me because some other neighbors complained.  I admitted that it was sort of an eye-sore but as long as it isn't abandoned, is legal, and not causing a hinderence, then whether I like it or not, it can stay.  He said it's some old model with low mileage.  I'm like, whatever.  Not my cup of tea but maybe it's a hobby of his.

The son:  The son, young twenties, is using the car.  As Hawk told me, his son got into some trouble with the law and would be moving back.  I thought he got rid of the car because I hadn't seen it in at least 6 months.

Hawk is approachable, but never around.  I last saw him 3 weeks ago when I mentioned to him that his dog was messing around in my bushes and when I opened the blinds my dog saw his dog and charged the window, breaking it.  Cost me almost $400 to fix.  Yes, my 80 lb lab is fine. 

I plan on talking to him, but the one time I did go to their house no one answered the door.  I generally see him hanging out in the driveway on the weekends but not this past weekend and not since the junker car showed up.  Right now, there are 4 cars in the driveway and 2 in front of my house.

HOAs:  I like living in a neighborhood with rules.  In Northern Virginia (outside of DC), I paid more than $1,200 a year in HOA fees and didn't mind one bit.  You couldn't park commerical vans in the neighborhood; there were limited colors you could paint your house, and if someone didn't cut their lawn, they got a notice.  I personally like that.  I can truly appreciate people having opposite feelings than me and that's cool.  Just differences of opinion, no reason to bash or start a war.   When you've got 15 houses on a street and everyone has a clean yard, well kept exterior of their house, cars in the garage or driveway, fences that aren't falling down and everyone's house is painted with an earth-toned color; it kind of ticks me off when one person is the complete opposite.  Trash in their yard, grass is 10" tall, 6 cars in front and 1 is a junker, fence is falling down, dog is roaming freely, loud music and so on.

Kind of makes all the work everyone else does go to waste. 
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2007, 05:49:42 PM »

I would try reasoning with him. Having a neigbor feud going on is not the hill you want to die on! You pay a homeowners association to represent your interests in this area, and I believe that they should be your second line of recourse. Police ( and you know how those guys are  >:D) never make neignbor disputes better, they just arrest the guy with no shirt and a beer can in hand, ( and since he is a squid, it will probably be him, since swabbies are prone to alcoholism and crabs) If your homeowners association won't enforce your written bylaws, consider suing them in small claims court for your dues. Lawyer letters, air strikes, arson, false police reports, etc have a way of ending in tragedy. I am sure you have seen as many or more family "415's " (California-talk for disturbance calls) stemming from neigbors at war over trees, fences, barking dogs, and parking spaces. A good many of these turn seriously violent. Since you a dealing with a member of the Canoe-Club, you know he must be an intrinsically defective person anyway!

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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2007, 06:40:21 PM »

I guess that's one reason I won't live somewhere that has a home owners association.  I pay enough in property taxes that I'm not going to pay more just so someone can tell me what color I have to paint my house.

What you call a "junker" might be some kid's first car and that's all he could afford. 

Just wait until you can't sell your house because no one ELSE wants to deal with the eyesore.  I personally don't care if it's some kid's first car, he can park it somewhere else or take care of it.  In my state, that car with no window wouldn't pass inspection and I'd be calling code enforcement on him.  His right to be sloppy ends when it affects my finances.  At least, that's how it should be.

And to everyone else...reasoning doesn't work with people like this.  My neighbor thought nothing of habitually drinking and driving and bumping into the back of my car on the street (the one day I was stupid enough to PARK on the street).  Unfortunately, people are by nature selfish and don't care that what they do affects others.
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2007, 08:31:45 PM »

.. snip ..( and since he is a squid, it will probably be him, since swabbies are prone to alcoholism and crabs) ..snip ..  Since you a dealing with a member of the Canoe-Club, you know he must be an intrinsically defective person anyway!
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What a great response and generalization slamming the many fine folks who serve in the US Navy.
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2007, 08:40:26 PM »

Just wait until you can't sell your house because no one ELSE wants to deal with the eyesore.  I personally don't care if it's some kid's first car, he can park it somewhere else or take care of it.  In my state, that car with no window wouldn't pass inspection and I'd be calling code enforcement on him.  His right to be sloppy ends when it affects my finances.  At least, that's how it should be.

I guess I've just never had enough free time to worry about such things.  If it's a safety issue, sure, but the visual asthetics of my neighbor's property would only be a concern if my house was on the market, otherwise it's not affecting my fianances one little bit.

Michigan doesn't have vehicle inspections.  If it rolls, has lights, doesn't burn more oil than gas, you're good to go.  

I had a neighbor once who would always keep his grass golf course putting green short and hated seeing anyone else's grass longer than his.   I'm not the kind of person who cuts grass more than once a weekend, might even skip a week here or there.  He decided that I was bringing down the value of his property so one Saturday morning I hear a lawnmower in my yard.  I look out the window and here he is on a riding lawn mower, beer in one hand and an infant on his lap.   I'm sure some of you LEOs can add that citation up...not to mention calculate insurance premium adjustments had that child fallen.

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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2007, 08:57:51 PM »

.. snip ..( and since he is a squid, it will probably be him, since swabbies are prone to alcoholism and crabs) ..snip ..  Since you a dealing with a member of the Canoe-Club, you know he must be an intrinsically defective person anyway!
Major Lord

What a great response and generalization slamming the many fine folks who serve in the US Navy.


The navy has fine folks??  >:D Those are called Marines  ;D
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2007, 09:05:05 PM »

.. snip ..( and since he is a squid, it will probably be him, since swabbies are prone to alcoholism and crabs) ..snip ..  Since you a dealing with a member of the Canoe-Club, you know he must be an intrinsically defective person anyway!
Major Lord

What a great response and generalization slamming the many fine folks who serve in the US Navy.


He's kidding.

Lighten up, Francis!
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2007, 09:31:39 PM »

All joking aside Kirt, I hope you can come to a solution to this issue.

I have enjoyed this topic as it is a break from our CAP issues.
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2007, 09:42:06 PM »

.. snip ..( and since he is a squid, it will probably be him, since swabbies are prone to alcoholism and crabs) ..snip ..  Since you a dealing with a member of the Canoe-Club, you know he must be an intrinsically defective person anyway!
Major Lord

What a great response and generalization slamming the many fine folks who serve in the US Navy.


The navy has fine folks??  >:D Those are called Marines  ;D

No, no, no, you've got it bass-ackwards -

I agree on the "Lighten up, Francis". Allen's commentary was tongue-in-cheek, and I took it as such. Otherwise, I would have been forced to hunt him down and drive a stake into his heart.
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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2007, 10:14:35 PM »

You and me both... Revenge of the Tweets
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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2007, 10:18:48 PM »

On a side note, a Navy HM earned the Silver Star for actions in Iraq when he saved many Marines and killed many bad guys.
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2007, 10:22:47 PM »

All joking aside Kirt, I hope you can come to a solution to this issue.

I have enjoyed this topic as it is a break from our CAP issues.

Thanks, Rob.  I want it to go well as too.  Look, I know I'm anal retentive and some would say I'm taking this too far and it's not a big deal.  But I'm a big fan of not imposing on people because the way I live.  Like smoking, I don't smoke, but if I did, I'd make sure to smoke away from non-smokers.  That's just how I am.

I think a reasonable and prudent person would assess this car as an "eye sore".  I think most people wouldn't mind if a their neighbor had it out there for a few days while a family member was visiting, or he was just keeping it there before he could get it fixed.  But that's not the case.  It is a blatent disregard for common courtesy and ungentelmanly like conduct.  I don't think the owner thinks of it this way, but I do.

Will let everyone know how it goes once I get a chance to see Hawk again.  They're like vampires, I've been home all day and haven't seen movement from that house.  Not sure if they watch to see when I'm not looking before they leave, but dern sure seems that way  ::)
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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2007, 10:45:48 PM »

On a side note, a Navy HM earned the Silver Star for actions in Iraq when he saved many Marines and killed many bad guys.

Marines don't consider "Their" Corpsman as Navy, they are just slightly confused Brother Marines  ;D
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2007, 11:14:46 PM »

Thanks, Rob.  I want it to go well as too.  Look, I know I'm anal retentive and some would say I'm taking this too far and it's not a big deal.
You're not (at least not because of this) and it is.  My neighbor from hell is gone, and him leaving was a bigger stress relief than taking a month long vacation from work.  All joking aside, I hope you find a way to deal with it.
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« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2007, 12:06:00 AM »

It's not easy dealing with neighbors, especially if you don't know them. The neighbors I have are the most inconsiderate people I've ever had the displeasure to share a house with (we live in a duplex). My suggestion is to confront the neighborhood watch commander as a community and bring the problems to him/her. The confront the neighbors politely. If that doesn't work, then the law comes into play. Since it doesn't seem that there is criminal play involved, it'll be a civil issue to be taken up with your city's building department, and possible the law department. Politeness is the key in this situation. Grin and bear it.
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2007, 02:25:35 AM »

On a side note, a Navy HM earned the Silver Star for actions in Iraq when he saved many Marines and killed many bad guys.

Marines don't consider "Their" Corpsman as Navy, they are just slightly confused Brother Marines  ;D

Do you wonder why we are confused when we can only wear our rank on one sleeve?  In J-ville (NC) the hawkers on my starboard side kept asking what I did to get busted to private after seeing no stripes but Vietnam awards.
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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2007, 02:47:56 AM »

Send a note to the HOA demanding they enforce the CCR's. If they do not, seek legal guidance reguarding lack of enforcement and seek damages related to loss of property value. Inform them that is the process you will initiate. Make them be the bad guy.
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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2007, 01:18:27 AM »

Little update.

Situation:  Resolved

Method:  Had a cop buddy drive up and run the tags that were expired.  Knocked on my neighbor's door to inquire about the old beater with expired tags.  When they couldn't come up with a legitimate excuse, he said "I'll tell you what, your neighbor (me) is a good friend of mine so if you go ahead and put the car in your driveway, off the city street, you can keep it as long as you'd like without renewing the tags.  This way, you don't have to go through the hassle of paying a towing fee on top of getting it registered".

My neighbor came over and thanked me.

Even though it's not out of view, it is off the street and more importantly, no longer in front of my house.
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« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2007, 03:11:38 AM »

Hey great news, glad it all worked out.
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