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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2007, 01:29:28 AM »

Just got wind the Arizona Wing CC Col Lynch has resigned as Wing CC. Something is happening somewhere..
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2007, 01:36:19 AM »

Now even more interesting, not playing well with others? Gee, there's some pretty high profile ES folks that fit that bill, too, that Col. Nelson allowed them to prosper, and while they did, the responders lagged, found other parts of the program that were .. more interesting, and thats still happening.

New Horizons, at the CA Wing Conference in two weeks, for sure. This should be exciting. Maybe we can finally move on.
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2007, 03:25:01 AM »

With all of this talk of Wing Commanders and ES problems, I'm starting to rethink my ES position.
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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2007, 05:54:53 AM »

It would also do CAP a lot of good to have most officers voted into their positions, rather than appointed.  That would solve a lot of problems, including the "officer appointed as a commander because he's best friends with a general" syndrome.         

I completely disagree!

No CAP officer should be voted in!  Gods....that would bring the politics down the the squadron level!  It's bad enough as it is.

The BOG should have some elected positions on it to represent the members of CAP...but each and ever officer from that level on down should be selected by the next level solely on the basics of how well  they do their job.

If you want to remove politics from CAP Leadership......make the positions a non political job.
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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2007, 06:15:02 AM »

It would also do CAP a lot of good to have most officers voted into their positions, rather than appointed.  That would solve a lot of problems, including the "officer appointed as a commander because he's best friends with a general" syndrome.         

I completely disagree!

No CAP officer should be voted in!  Gods....that would bring the politics down the the squadron level!  It's bad enough as it is.

The BOG should have some elected positions on it to represent the members of CAP...but each and ever officer from that level on down should be selected by the next level solely on the basics of how well  they do their job.

If you want to remove politics from CAP Leadership......make the positions a non political job.

Having officers promoted on the basis of election seems to work well for the Coast Guard Auxiliary, and their politics is not as bad as CAP's.  Giving squadron personnel a say in who should/shouldn't command them would work better than what is currently going on.   

And the politics, (or rather, corruption) in CAP is due to a lack of oversight.  The way officers are brought into their command positions is not going to change the politics (or remove it).           
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« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2007, 10:59:33 AM »

Part of the biggest problem with selection of qualified commanders/officers is that we don't have enough personnel at almost any level to fill the rosters with people, much less good, qualified people.  How many of you aren't filling more than one role wherever you are??
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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2007, 12:40:35 PM »

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Having officers promoted on the basis of election seems to work well for the Coast Guard Auxiliary, and their politics is not as bad as CAP's.  Giving squadron personnel a say in who should/shouldn't command them would work better than what is currently going on.   

And the politics, (or rather, corruption) in CAP is due to a lack of oversight.  The way officers are brought into their command positions is not going to change the politics (or remove it).           

Electing officers is not what makes the Coast Guard Auxiliary different.  No auxiliarist can terminate any other auxiliarist.  Granted, at the flotilla and division level having the commanders elected does tend to get more qualified people into the job than being selected because you are a suck up to the district commodore.  One Florida Wing Commander who shall not be named sucked up to his superior and had all of his competition systematically eliminated; until he got to the level of wing commander and could do his own pruning of the orchard that he was growing in.  And you can all see what a wonderful legacy he is leaving us.  I got an anonymous email yesterday telling me that a Deputy Commander for Cadets who was alleged to be trading sexual favors from a female cadet for answers to achievements was "not doing anything wrong." My answer to this astounding allegation was that I didn't know that, because his wing commander blocked the mandatory investigation, and the Knoxville Mafia allowed it.
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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2007, 12:54:24 PM »

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Having officers promoted on the basis of election seems to work well for the Coast Guard Auxiliary, and their politics is not as bad as CAP's.  Giving squadron personnel a say in who should/shouldn't command them would work better than what is currently going on.   

And the politics, (or rather, corruption) in CAP is due to a lack of oversight.  The way officers are brought into their command positions is not going to change the politics (or remove it).           

Electing officers is not what makes the Coast Guard Auxiliary different.  No auxiliarist can terminate any other auxiliarist.  Granted, at the flotilla and division level having the commanders elected does tend to get more qualified people into the job than being selected because you are a suck up to the district commodore.  One Florida Wing Commander who shall not be named sucked up to his superior and had all of his competition systematically eliminated; until he got to the level of wing commander and could do his own pruning of the orchard that he was growing in.  And you can all see what a wonderful legacy he is leaving us.  I got an anonymous email yesterday telling me that a Deputy Commander for Cadets who was alleged to be trading sexual favors from a female cadet for answers to achievements was "not doing anything wrong." My answer to this astounding allegation was that I didn't know that, because his wing commander blocked the mandatory investigation, and the Knoxville Mafia allowed it.

I'm thinking of starting a pool - how long can Doug Johnson go before he "Tourette's" over TP.

I think we'll have to bid in hours, maybe minutes.
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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2007, 01:03:10 PM »

The smart money says bid in years.
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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2007, 02:32:55 PM »

. . .  "I got an anonymous email yesterday telling me that a Deputy Commander for Cadets who was alleged to be trading sexual favors from a female cadet for answers to achievements was "not doing anything wrong." My answer to this astounding allegation was that I didn't know that, because his wing commander blocked the mandatory investigation, and the Knoxville Mafia allowed it."

So much for CAPR 52-10.  You will probably push it and see that the right thing is done.
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« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2007, 03:44:18 PM »

  You're pushing it alright, Doug.  Easy.
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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2007, 05:25:25 PM »

  You're pushing it alright, Doug.  Easy.

I don't understand.  What I meant was that he sounded like he would see that 52-10 would be implemented and the correct actions would be taken.  Did I miss something here?
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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2007, 06:27:49 PM »

Hi Guys,

  Regarding Col. Lynch in AZ, the official story is that his work commitments were becoming too difficult to manage alongside of his CC position.  I would tend to believe this as he was, indeed, trying to work a full-time job while being Commander - I always wondered how he was pulling that off, and I guess the answer was "not quite".
  In my experience, he was a good CC, if a little distracted sometimes - and I've not heard of any political problems associated with AZ or him.

73 DE Hartley
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2007, 06:54:13 PM »

Why are yall putting California's business out on a public website? I hope you don't tell family business like this. This is CAWG's personal business and probably doesnt need to be put out like that
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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2007, 07:44:23 PM »

The smart money says bid in years.

(Holds up bidder sigh)

SIX

<never could pass up a wise ***** remark> >:D
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« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2007, 03:34:47 PM »

Why are yall putting California's business out on a public website? I hope you don't tell family business like this. This is CAWG's personal business and probably doesnt need to be put out like that

I'm a member of the CAWG and I personally see no problem with this thread.  After all, when "the-major-general-who-will-remain-nameless" removed Col. Nelson as the CAWG CC and replaced her with then Lt. Col. Muniz, there was a thread devoted to that event and speculation surrounding it.   Now that the situation has seemed to be rectified with Col. Pearson removing Col. Muniz, why shouldn't the news of that event be published in a thread?

Sure there is speculation that has taken place regarding the removal of the CAWG CC....but this isn't the first time I have seen speculation on this board  :o
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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2007, 03:41:11 PM »

The smart money says bid in years.

(Holds up bidder sign)

SIX

<never could pass up a wise ***** remark> >:D

I like you Thom, and if you will tell me when the counting started, I will arrange to Tourette so that you win.  See you in 2013.
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« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2007, 04:11:40 PM »

Good call Chappie.  The conference might turn out to be exciting after all.

Looking forward to seeing ya there.   ;D
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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2007, 04:17:25 PM »

Hi Guys,

  Regarding Col. Lynch in AZ, the official story is that his work commitments were becoming too difficult to manage alongside of his CC position.  I would tend to believe this as he was, indeed, trying to work a full-time job while being Commander - I always wondered how he was pulling that off, and I guess the answer was "not quite".
  In my experience, he was a good CC, if a little distracted sometimes - and I've not heard of any political problems associated with AZ or him.

73 DE Hartley

I have always maintained that a Wing/Region commander would have to...should best be...someone who is retired or otherwise independentally wealthy.  The demands, according to my paradigm of CAP where work and family take precedent over meetings/SARex where feasible, are overwhelming to a person managing their family's livelihood.

Thus, until I am either retired or I win a lotto...I would not plan to rise much higher than a Group Level officer.
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2007, 04:21:47 PM »

I posted, and the moderators removed, the real reason Bill Lynch resigned.  Overwork might have had something to do with it, but if the news articles are correct, he will not only be out as Wing Commander, but he will need a waiver to remain a member of CAP.
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