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salassa72
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« on: June 08, 2005, 10:28:46 AM »

Does anyone know of or is there a way to find out if there is a record held for the longest consecutive years of a Senior command staff running a Squadron?

Our Commander and Deputy Commander have been working together for 11 years. 

doing some research into the longest running command.

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MIKE
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2005, 10:57:18 AM »

At the MAWG conference this year a squadron CC was recognized for a rather lengthy term as a squadron commander.  I don't recall exactly how long, but 11 years is nothing in comparison.
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Mike Johnston
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2005, 11:14:38 AM »

Lt Col Johnnie Pantanelli of the North Castle Composite Squadron, New York Wing.  I'm pretty sure she's commanded that squadron since the early 1980s.
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salassa72
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2005, 04:34:27 PM »

I know its not the longest! but another senior member and I were wondering what was the longest held command,
I think just their working together as a team for 11 years, is something special.
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Capt SSnyder
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 12:00:18 AM »

We had 2 different squadron commanders in Illinois hold their office over 30 years each. I'm sure there are many more pushing that level.
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Steven Snyder, Capt. CAP
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2005, 03:46:52 PM »

THIRTY YEARS???
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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Michael Kieloch, Marketing Communications & PR Leadership
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2005, 04:12:50 PM »

Wow. :o  How did they not burn-out??  They must have had some great support staff!
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2005, 04:48:13 PM »

Wow. :o  How did they not burn-out??  They must have had some great support staff!

It seems that if you don't burn out, you run a well established unit (Read as resistant to change.) and nobody is after your job, you can just coast on autopilot and altitude hold for a while.  We've been doing it like this for 30 years, why stop now?
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Mike Johnston
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2005, 06:05:31 PM »

Connecticut had a wing commander who held the position for I believe 15 years. 

Now with limits I highly doubt you will see that sort of thing happen again.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2005, 06:12:34 PM »

I think there's a commander here in KYWG that's pushing 30 years, if he's not past already.

Connecticut had a wing commander who held the position for I believe 15 years. 

Now with limits I highly doubt you will see that sort of thing happen again.

Where are there limits for Squadron Commander terms? Does anyone think there should be if there aren't? Makes sense really, we have term limits for Wing, Region and National Commanders already.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2005, 06:13:59 PM »

Where are there limits for Squadron Commander terms? Does anyone think there should be if there aren't?

I think anyone who does that should get a MEDAL !!
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2005, 06:53:16 PM »

I think there's a commander here in KYWG that's pushing 30 years, if he's not past already.

Connecticut had a wing commander who held the position for I believe 15 years. 

Now with limits I highly doubt you will see that sort of thing happen again.

Where are there limits for Squadron Commander terms? Does anyone think there should be if there aren't? Makes sense really, we have term limits for Wing, Region and National Commanders already.

I don't know of limits for the Squadron Commanders but I am pretty sure the Wing Commander term limits really got pushed after this happened. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2005, 08:10:33 PM »

PCR has limits all the way down to squadron commander. Absolute max for SqCC is five years, requiring region approval, with three being the normal limit and four being the common extended limit.

http://www.cawg.cap.gov/Files/Supplements/CAPR35_1Supp1.pdf
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salassa72
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2005, 08:43:30 PM »

Is anyone ENFORCING this time serve limit?? It certainly doesn't seem so.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2005, 09:09:42 PM »

It's certainly being done in CAWG.
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2005, 09:23:24 AM »

We have a 4 year limit in IL. Coming up on my 4th in December. Not sure yet what will happen.
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2005, 09:38:07 AM »

Does anyone know of or is there a way to find out if there is a record held for the longest consecutive years of a Senior command staff running a Squadron?

Our Commander and Deputy Commander have been working together for 11 years. 

doing some research into the longest running command.



Just curious- Deputy Commander for Seniors or Deputy Commander for Cadets?

My squadron isn't even six years old, and over those years we've had some rough times (been through several commanders).  I think the longest somebody's been a Squadron/CC in my squadron is........two years?
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C/Maj Greg(ory) Boyajian, CAP
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2005, 12:40:11 AM »

Interesting this happend at our meeting tonight.
The squadron commander read a letter from the wing commander ordering ALL sqaudron commanders that have been in command for 4 or more years to prepare to change command...

The wing commander decided that since he can only serve for 4 years, then everyone in leadership positions in the wing should be rotated in 4 year cycles...
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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Michael Kieloch, Marketing Communications & PR Leadership
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2005, 03:09:20 AM »

Interesting this happend at our meeting tonight.
The squadron commander read a letter from the wing commander ordering ALL sqaudron commanders that have been in command for 4 or more years to prepare to change command...

The wing commander decided that since he can only serve for 4 years, then everyone in leadership positions in the wing should be rotated in 4 year cycles...

Interesting.  Perhaps your Wing King has been reading this thread on CAPTalk.  ;)
 
So does that decree include your squadron commander?
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Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2005, 12:48:17 PM »

It sure does.
He told us he would be stepping down shortly.
Brought over the guy that will be replacing him to the cadet meeting for the first time last night.
Real nice guy from the senior half of the squadron, but he had never had anything to do with the cadet half.

Only time will tell.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sence to me though.
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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