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[RogueLeader]

Oh, 1700 local, right.

[JC004]

Oh, 1700 local, right.

You and your inferior central time.

[Major Carrales]

Hmm, I didn't see anything in the presentation about the US Civil Air Patrol... maybe some of our folks who were at the PAO Academy can tell us how that issue was approached in the actual branding plan?

We focused more on "how to get the information out" ranging from Unit Public Affairs to the role of the Information Officer in Critical information situations.

This issue was not addressed...although the materials refer to the US Civil Air Patrol.  It really wasn't the time or place to have that discussion.  I wasn't gonna get into it unless it was raised.  

Now, the branding and marketing plan is set and these issues will be raised.  The time to bring it up is today and tomorrow by a Wing or Region Commander...not by a room full of PAOs who's focus for the Academy was more of operational exercise of Public Affairs instead of such a policy identifier.

[MIKE]

Oh, 1700 local, right.

You and your inferior central time.

TIMEz

[winterg]

What are the general thoughts on an enlisted senior member progression?

[BillB]

I don't see how 16 GA-8's with Archer can do the missions they talk about. That's two per region and they want the Task Force crews within two hours driving of the GA-8 base?

[BillB]

I think promotions for CAP NCOs is a good idea. If the officers can promote, why not the NCOs? Just because you were an E6 in the military, why should you be locked into that grade in CAP?

[MIKE]

The idea needs more time to mature.

[winterg]

I don't think it needs to be that difficult.  Keep the same progression we have now and adjust the ranks.  2LT = SSgt, 1LT = TSgt, CPT = MSgt, MAJ - SMSgt, LTCOL = CMSgt, COL = Command CMSGT.

I know many senior members officers who would feel more comfortable with enlisted stripes on.  Much of what we do is more in-line with enlisted occupations as well.  We don't actually make officers in CAP anyway.  Mostly just throw a uniform at someone and say, "Congrats, you're a Lieutenant!"

I know it's more complicated than that but I believe we need to seriously look at it.

[Wildblueflyer]

Was there any more info on flight training for senior members? ??

[MIKE]

Other than they don't want to do it?

[LtCol White]

So whats on the agenda for tomorrow?

[Wildblueflyer]

Other than they don't want to do it?

So that's it??  They bring it up (senior member flight training) only to quash it?  Nice...

[SeattleSarge]

I think promotions for CAP NCOs is a good idea. If the officers can promote, why not the NCOs? Just because you were an E6 in the military, why should you be locked into that grade in CAP?

CMSgt Chiafos has been working on this program for almost a year now.  His study group document was circulated to many CAP NCOs and SNCOs last May.

Chief Chaifos program is comprehensive and based on performance and professional development training. 

If the organization wants to attract and retain former military NCOs, the National Board needs to step up to the plate.

Opinion selector to SAFE....

-SeattleSarge

[LtCol White]

I think promotions for CAP NCOs is a good idea. If the officers can promote, why not the NCOs? Just because you were an E6 in the military, why should you be locked into that grade in CAP?

CMSgt Chiafos has been working on this program for almost a year now.  His study group document was circulated to many CAP NCOs and SNCOs last May.

Chief Chaifos program is comprehensive and based on performance and professional development training. 

If the organization wants to attract and retain former military NCOs, the National Board needs to step up to the plate.

Opinion selector to SAFE....

-SeattleSarge

I think this is an excellent idea and I hope it moves forward as it should

[JC004]

Other than they don't want to do it?

So that's it??  They bring it up (senior member flight training) only to quash it?  Nice...

well because it's been an on-going item for a while...this seemed like the final report on why it was a bad idea

[Major Carrales]

I'm a big supporter of the Chief's plan, I regret that I could not stay longer in Atlanta and discuss how I might help or best lend support to the idea.

As for the "promoting" of NCOs.  I have a members of my unit who was real interested in it, but accepted 2d Lt bars because the prospec tof never promoting was not to his liking.

[shorning]

CMSgt Chiafos has been working on this program for almost a year now.  His study group document was circulated to many CAP NCOs and SNCOs last May.

Seems like he missed out soliciting input from some of us.  Not all NCOs in CAP are CAP NCOs...

[SeattleSarge]

CMSgt Chiafos has been working on this program for almost a year now.  His study group document was circulated to many CAP NCOs and SNCOs last May.

Seems like he missed out soliciting input from some of us.  Not all NCOs in CAP are CAP NCOs...

I'm sure the idea was to use a small working group, so he could quickly refine the plan for the meeting today. 

We all know there are many prior service NCOs in squadron, wing, region, and national leadership positions.

-SeattleSarge

[Major Carrales]

CMSgt Chiafos has been working on this program for almost a year now.  His study group document was circulated to many CAP NCOs and SNCOs last May.

Seems like he missed out soliciting input from some of us.  Not all NCOs in CAP are CAP NCOs...

He did make an "all call," even posted here.  I'm not an NCO, but I replied offering all I could do...even set him up with some NCOs for input.

As I recall, his message was "smacked" down and seen through the "This is one of Tony's Cronies" and turned him completely off to CAPTALK.  It's never too late...

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