September 25, 2020, 11:44:54 pm

Political messages in meetings

Started by Matthew Congrove, September 02, 2020, 03:25:02 am

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Mitchell 1969

Quote from: Eclipse on September 08, 2020, 03:07:17 am
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on September 08, 2020, 12:30:26 amWith "this here part" bring a discussion forum, with a simple "I wonder if..." leading to a challenge to go right to the top with that "I wonder if...". At any rate, the fact remains, those "oversight" phrases are poorly worded.

Are they?

Kansas, at least according to their annual budget, has a 1/2 FTE's salary devoted to CAP,
along with whatever resources and appropriation they may provide.  They don't have command authority
over CAP, per se, but they would certainly have "oversight" on whatever they provide to CAP, and an
opinion about operations, generally.

At least as characterized, this is no different then CAP-USAF.

I can tell you from direct experience that lack of oversight in a case like this is not a best practice.

With oversight comes an understanding of where the money is going and how the resources are being used,
making it much easier to justify during the annual "See-AY-Whonow?" conversations at budget time.

The alternative is a state providing resources and money with no idea why, and then one day it's just gone...

BTDT.
If they want to retain oversight of state money (which they should), then they should state that they retain oversight of state funds allocated to CAP purposes, and not state that they have oversight of CAP.

It's simple, really.


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Bernard J. Wilson, Major, CAP

Mitchell 1969; Earhart 1971; Eaker 1973. Cadet Flying Encampment, License, 1970. IACE New Zealand 1971; IACE Korea 1973.

CAP has been bery, bery good to me.

JohhnyD

Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on September 09, 2020, 03:02:36 amIf they want to retain oversight of state money (which they should), then they should state that they retain oversight of state funds allocated to CAP purposes, and not state that they have oversight of CAP.

It's simple, really.

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Simple. You have any experience in crafting or passing legislation, especially funded appropriations?
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on September 09, 2020, 03:02:36 amIt's simple, really.
Well, not really.

Mitchell 1969

Quote from: JohhnyD on September 09, 2020, 03:07:09 am
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on September 09, 2020, 03:02:36 amIf they want to retain oversight of state money (which they should), then they should state that they retain oversight of state funds allocated to CAP purposes, and not state that they have oversight of CAP.

It's simple, really.

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Simple. You have any experience in crafting or passing legislation, especially funded appropriations?

As a matter of fact, yes, I do.


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Bernard J. Wilson, Major, CAP

Mitchell 1969; Earhart 1971; Eaker 1973. Cadet Flying Encampment, License, 1970. IACE New Zealand 1971; IACE Korea 1973.

CAP has been bery, bery good to me.

SarDragon

OK, folks, let's lighten up here. This is starting to degenerate into a "measuring contest".
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

PHall

Quote from: SarDragon on September 09, 2020, 10:41:51 pmOK, folks, let's lighten up here. This is starting to degenerate into a "measuring contest".

Oh, this went beyond a "measuring contest" a long time ago.
Somewhere around page one.

SarDragon

Phil, we're still only on page one (my pages show 50 posts). We are, however, descending into the abyss. I am hoping to retard that progress a bit.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret