Started by Eclipse, August 18, 2020, 12:33:43 am
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Quote from: PHall on August 18, 2020, 12:39:36 amNHQ has absolutely no say in the matter right now.The states, counties and cities are calling the shots right now.
Quote from: Fubar on August 18, 2020, 03:07:08 amThere was a whole session dedicated to it, "Encampment and Overnight Activities During COVID-19" by Lt Col Christine Lee. It's available for your viewing for the next year.
Quote from: Eclipse on August 18, 2020, 03:50:28 amQuote from: Fubar on August 18, 2020, 03:07:08 amThere was a whole session dedicated to it, "Encampment and Overnight Activities During COVID-19" by Lt Col Christine Lee. It's available for your viewing for the next year.Where?
Quote from: Eclipse on August 18, 2020, 12:33:00 pmI'll set the Wayback.Where now?
Quote from: Eclipse on August 18, 2020, 01:44:06 pmNot accessible to the general membership.
Quote from: Fubar on August 18, 2020, 03:08:56 amQuote from: PHall on August 18, 2020, 12:39:36 amNHQ has absolutely no say in the matter right now.The states, counties and cities are calling the shots right now.Well technically NHQ does have a say in the matter if they come out and say regardless of what your state is doing, we don't want you doing overnight activities. At first that seemed to be NHQ's approach, they locked everything down regardless of local conditions but now they seem to be looking for any excuse to open things up.
Quote from: Eclipse on August 18, 2020, 02:13:58 pmDid not attend, which was why I asked in the firstplace.One can only imagine the various "reasons" these are beyond a payfreewall, or why NHQfound it necessary to restrict this content only to "participants".These should all have been on Youtube with no registration necessary where they would live in perpetuity with easy access.
Quote from: Eclipse on August 18, 2020, 12:33:43 amMy personal feeling is that absent a vaccine / effective direct treatment, there is no way NHQ can allow overnights to resume ....
Quote from: etodd on August 19, 2020, 12:20:44 amQuote from: Eclipse on August 18, 2020, 12:33:43 amMy personal feeling is that absent a vaccine / effective direct treatment, there is no way NHQ can allow overnights to resume ....If the vaccine came out today, half the country will not jump to get it. Many will wait a few months or a year, to let others be the 'beta testers'. Imagine the whole country getting it right away, and then a few months later the CDC saying "whoops!".May as well just figure CAP will be down all through 2021. I wouldn't even begin to start thinking of overnight events until 2022.JMHO
Quote from: SarDragon on August 18, 2020, 09:18:43 pmI tried Colgan's link and all I get is spinning wheels. It appears that registration is still possible, but I did not try to complete the process.
Quote from: Spam on August 19, 2020, 11:08:26 pmice Commander, I did a rough plan for a smaller, multi weekend ES-themed Type B Encampment, which garnered some real interest, but we shelved it in case of future need. If we do reopen the bottle here, perhaps we need to consider a smaller model of Encampments wherein we... well, actually Encamp...
Quote from: Phil Hirons, Jr. on January 22, 2021, 08:19:35 pmThe institutional knowledge drain on the cadet side (and to a lesser extent senior side) will be tough to refill.
Quote from: PHall on January 22, 2021, 09:01:48 pmBut if we ever wanted to do a "reset" on how we do encampment, now would be the time.
Quote from: Ned on August 20, 2020, 04:14:11 amA couple of observations:1. Even if things don't get better by mid-winter, we will not be discussing completely virtual encampments. It's just not encampment. We will find other solutions if necessary.2. There is nothing in the 60-20 that requires encampments to be held in brick and mortar buildings. Encampments could be conducted in the field using tentage. I once went deep into the planning process for a Type A outside the contonement area of a military installation. Bases often have "deployment training sites" with areas designated for tents, hardstand latrines, and classrooms. My issues came down to finding enough GP mediums or larges, and figuring out how to get them put up and taken down. Including a possible delay in taking them down if they got wet the last day of encampment. (You can't store wet tentage.). I could not resource them in time, so we had to cancel.Heck, you could indeed use individual tents ("BYOT") if you were so inclined. It would be a challenge to meet the curricula, and I would love to come visit. But the bottom line is that there is no rule that prevents a CAP encampment from being held in the field. Obviously, even if the cadets spend the night in individual tents, military social distance would still be required in class, meal times, etc. until we leave Phase 3 of the remob plan. 3. The encampment seminar at the conference was presented by Ms. Joanna Lee of the NHQ corporate team, and not LtCol Christine Lee who recently suffered a severe injury. (Sing it with me: "Here a Lee, there a Lee, everywhere a Lee, a Lee . . .")4. Once we all have access to an effective vaccine, there is no reason that we could not require a vaccination for all members attending encampment. Indeed, my guess is that many institutions (Schools, military bases, etc.) will be requiring vaccination certificates. But let's get an effective vaccine before we begin the "you can't make me get a vaccination before you let me do X" argument.None of us knows when the virus conditions will change. Like CAP uniforms, we can be certain that things will significantly change in the future. Just nobody knows when.Ned LeeNational Cadet Program Manager
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