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Some Ribbon Trivia

Started by Flying Pig, December 04, 2019, 07:10:16 pm

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Flying Pig

The Cadet Recruiting Ribbon is also the same ribbon used as the GA Guard Emergency Service Military Ribbon.  Class dismissed. (Yes, I'm currently bored.)

THRAWN

Quote from: Flying Pig on December 04, 2019, 07:10:16 pm
The Cadet Recruiting Ribbon is also the same ribbon used as the GA Guard Emergency Service Military Ribbon.  Class dismissed. (Yes, I'm currently bored.)


And the CAP MOV ribbon is the same as the SGAUS Faithful Service Ribbon.
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Dwight Dutton

Quote from: THRAWN on December 04, 2019, 07:23:06 pm
Quote from: Flying Pig on December 04, 2019, 07:10:16 pm
The Cadet Recruiting Ribbon is also the same ribbon used as the GA Guard Emergency Service Military Ribbon.  Class dismissed. (Yes, I'm currently bored.)


And the CAP MOV ribbon is the same as the SGAUS Faithful Service Ribbon.


There's also a CAP ribbon that if you turn it upside down its a different CAP ribbon, but I think one of them is obsolete.

Professor Safety & Emergency Services

Quote from: Dwight Dutton on December 04, 2019, 08:12:19 pm
Quote from: THRAWN on December 04, 2019, 07:23:06 pm
Quote from: Flying Pig on December 04, 2019, 07:10:16 pm
The Cadet Recruiting Ribbon is also the same ribbon used as the GA Guard Emergency Service Military Ribbon.  Class dismissed. (Yes, I'm currently bored.)


And the CAP MOV ribbon is the same as the SGAUS Faithful Service Ribbon.


There's also a CAP ribbon that if you turn it upside down its a different CAP ribbon, but I think one of them is obsolete.


The current Gill Robb Wilson ribbon is the old National Commander's Citation Award.
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MSG Mac

The CAC ribbon is the 2nd Byrd Antarctic Medal circa 1936
The Searc and Rescue ribbon is the Army/AF Presidential Unit without the frame.
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MSG Mac

Quote from: Flying Pig on December 04, 2019, 07:10:16 pm
The Cadet Recruiting Ribbon is also the same ribbon used as the GA Guard Emergency Service Military Ribbon.  Class dismissed. (Yes, I'm currently bored.)


Also the UK's Order of Saints Michael and George
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shuman14

Quote from: THRAWN on December 04, 2019, 07:23:06 pm
Quote from: Flying Pig on December 04, 2019, 07:10:16 pm
The Cadet Recruiting Ribbon is also the same ribbon used as the GA Guard Emergency Service Military Ribbon.  Class dismissed. (Yes, I'm currently bored.)


And the CAP MOV ribbon is the same as the SGAUS Faithful Service Ribbon.




https://sgaus.org/product/faithful-service-ribbon-set-complete/
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Spam

Your solid green Unit Citation is the same ribbon as the Australian Order of the Thistle, the Elizabeth-Theresa Military Decoration of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Lifesaving Medal of the German Duchy of Brunswick. Also the Ethiopian Order of Solomon, so if you're going to cosplay Alan Quartermain seeking King Solomon's mines, your costume is halfway there already (just get the cool jodhpurs and a big bore elephant gun).

The VFW Cadet Officer of the Year Ribbon is identical to the Royal Bavarian Order of the Lion (Instituted: 1 January 1768 by the Elector Carl Theodor of Electoral Pfalz, Bavaria) and the VFW Unit Cadet NCO of the Year Ribbon is the Bavarian Civil Merit Order of the Bavarian Crown (Those dudes like their pale blue and white, just look at any good Bavarian beer garden!)

The white CAC ribbon is the same as the Cross for Religious Service of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Danish Order of the Elephant. (*That's the Order of the Elephant from Denmark, not an elephant shaped Danish, which would technically be an elephant ear pastry).

The Senior Member Level I Membership Award Ribbon is very close to the National Order of Burkina Faso.

The solid red IACE ribbon is identical to many foreign ribbons, such as the Order of Christopher Columbus of the Dominican Republic, and the Estonian Order of the White Star. Wear that ribbon on your next IACE det to Estonia and someone might mistakenly send your table a round of tasty Põhjala CocoBänger stout (if you're an escort that is).

The Cadet Recruiter Ribbon looks pretty close to the Silver Medal of Military Merit of Equatorial Guinea. I dunno... the shade of cyan may be off... so be careful when wearing your blues in Equatorial Guinea, cadets. You don't want to be accused of stolen valor.

We once had a Captalk member who just wouldn't stop with the East German stuff... he probably knew that our Grover Leoning Aerospace ribbon is very close to the East German Medal of Merit of the Combat Groups of the Working-Class
(Verdienstmedaille der Kampfgruppen der Arbeiterklasse). Not that CAP would condone the wear of a DDR Commie award, you understand.

Then there is the CAP Find ribbons close similarity to the Rhodesian Police Cross for Conspicuous Gallantry. It looks like Mugabe didn't keep that ribbon around when Zimbabwe replaced Rhodesia, but at least we don't face a CAP ribbon that resembles the Zimbabwean "President's Medal for Shooting" (shooting whom, is unclear).

Having lived in Taiwan (and that would be the non Communist version of China) as a youth, I was hoping that they'd match some of our CAP ribbons, but no. I'd like to suggest that we consider their designs for any new CAP ribbons, just so we can share a design with such fantastically-named awards as:  Order of Grand Unity, Order of the Cosmic Diagram, Order of the Book of Nature, Order of Sublime Commencement, Order of Propitious Clouds, and (my favorite), the "Order of the Precious Tripod". You just can't beat the Precious Tripod.


Pig, you and I seem to share a very odd reaction to boredom. Perhaps its something in the Georgia water...

Cheers!
Spam



Luis R. Ramos

I am going to request a new CAP ribbon. All seven colors of the rainbow. For the largest and longest comparison of CAP ribbons to other countries, be these former or current ones.
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THRAWN

Quote from: Spam on December 05, 2019, 02:28:38 am
Your solid green Unit Citation is the same ribbon as the Australian Order of the Thistle, the Elizabeth-Theresa Military Decoration of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Lifesaving Medal of the German Duchy of Brunswick. Also the Ethiopian Order of Solomon, so if you're going to cosplay Alan Quartermain seeking King Solomon's mines, your costume is halfway there already (just get the cool jodhpurs and a big bore elephant gun).

The VFW Cadet Officer of the Year Ribbon is identical to the Royal Bavarian Order of the Lion (Instituted: 1 January 1768 by the Elector Carl Theodor of Electoral Pfalz, Bavaria) and the VFW Unit Cadet NCO of the Year Ribbon is the Bavarian Civil Merit Order of the Bavarian Crown (Those dudes like their pale blue and white, just look at any good Bavarian beer garden!)

The white CAC ribbon is the same as the Cross for Religious Service of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Danish Order of the Elephant. (*That's the Order of the Elephant from Denmark, not an elephant shaped Danish, which would technically be an elephant ear pastry).

The Senior Member Level I Membership Award Ribbon is very close to the National Order of Burkina Faso.

The solid red IACE ribbon is identical to many foreign ribbons, such as the Order of Christopher Columbus of the Dominican Republic, and the Estonian Order of the White Star. Wear that ribbon on your next IACE det to Estonia and someone might mistakenly send your table a round of tasty Põhjala CocoBänger stout (if you're an escort that is).

The Cadet Recruiter Ribbon looks pretty close to the Silver Medal of Military Merit of Equatorial Guinea. I dunno... the shade of cyan may be off... so be careful when wearing your blues in Equatorial Guinea, cadets. You don't want to be accused of stolen valor.

We once had a Captalk member who just wouldn't stop with the East German stuff... he probably knew that our Grover Leoning Aerospace ribbon is very close to the East German Medal of Merit of the Combat Groups of the Working-Class
(Verdienstmedaille der Kampfgruppen der Arbeiterklasse). Not that CAP would condone the wear of a DDR Commie award, you understand.

Then there is the CAP Find ribbons close similarity to the Rhodesian Police Cross for Conspicuous Gallantry. It looks like Mugabe didn't keep that ribbon around when Zimbabwe replaced Rhodesia, but at least we don't face a CAP ribbon that resembles the Zimbabwean "President's Medal for Shooting" (shooting whom, is unclear).

Having lived in Taiwan (and that would be the non Communist version of China) as a youth, I was hoping that they'd match some of our CAP ribbons, but no. I'd like to suggest that we consider their designs for any new CAP ribbons, just so we can share a design with such fantastically-named awards as:  Order of Grand Unity, Order of the Cosmic Diagram, Order of the Book of Nature, Order of Sublime Commencement, Order of Propitious Clouds, and (my favorite), the "Order of the Precious Tripod". You just can't beat the Precious Tripod.


Pig, you and I seem to share a very odd reaction to boredom. Perhaps its something in the Georgia water...

Cheers!
Spam


Yowza, this is fun...haven't done this in a while and it's always kind of neat to see who uses what ribbon for what award. It gets really fun when you work in state awards. For example, the NJ Distinguished Service Medal uses the same ribbon as the USAF Outstanding Unit Award. You should see that mess on a ANG uniform. The Maryland Defense Force IET ribbon looks, at first glance, similar to the Navy MUC, and the Professional Development ribbon is a dead ringer for the old Navy Reserve ribbon.
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baronet68

Prior to 1964, CAP ribbons were designed by the Army's Heraldry Institute, whose job was to avoid using ribbon designs that resembled those used by foreign (allied or potentially enemy) nations.

When the current cadet program came into being in 1964, the Heraldry Institute was too busy to help CAP design new ribbons so NHQ turned to Charles Wood, CAP's chief illustrator, who designed some very unique and distinctive ribbons:

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PHall

Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on December 05, 2019, 01:06:31 pm
I am going to request a new CAP ribbon. All seven colors of the rainbow. For the largest and longest comparison of CAP ribbons to other countries, be these former or current ones.


The Army beat you on that about 40 years ago. The Army Training Ribbon. You get it for completing Basic Training.

supertigerCH

Quote from: PHall on December 05, 2019, 06:31:59 pm
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on December 05, 2019, 01:06:31 pm
I am going to request a new CAP ribbon. All seven colors of the rainbow. For the largest and longest comparison of CAP ribbons to other countries, be these former or current ones.


The Army beat you on that about 40 years ago. The Army Training Ribbon. You get it for completing Basic Training.



Is that what I got it for??  I was never quite sure... if it was the one awarded to us for marching in circles, or if it just came out of an MRE

THRAWN

Quote from: supertigerCH on December 05, 2019, 07:00:51 pm
Quote from: PHall on December 05, 2019, 06:31:59 pm
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on December 05, 2019, 01:06:31 pm
I am going to request a new CAP ribbon. All seven colors of the rainbow. For the largest and longest comparison of CAP ribbons to other countries, be these former or current ones.


The Army beat you on that about 40 years ago. The Army Training Ribbon. You get it for completing Basic Training.



Is that what I got it for??  I was never quite sure... if it was the one awarded to us for marching in circles, or if it just came out of an MRE


You got yours in an MRE? I got one in a Cracker Jack box. Was disappointed. Really wanted that stick on tattoo...
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supertigerCH



you guys got Cracker Jacks??!! 


you must have been part of one of those special identifier units.

Luis R. Ramos

I am not sure if you are writing correctly or if I am reading this correctly.

Are you referring to Cracker Jacks, or are you saying these Jacks are going Crackers?
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NIN

The Air SAR Ribbon (all blue), same color as the "Michigan Broadsword" National Guard longevity award.



Many years ago, I used to wear that one on my ribbon rack just to see who was paying attention. (yes, I know you weren't supposed to wear Guard ribbons)

You'd get a sharp-eyed cadet come up "Sir, uh, why do you have two Air SAR Ribbons?"

For a little while I also wore the mini-medal on my mess dress when it fit in the middle of the rack surrounded by other medals, almost totally hidden. I mean, come on, the medal has a SWORD on it!  It was a conversation piece.

Once in awhile someone would glance at my medals and say "Hey, uhh, wait a minute. What is _that_?"

I haven't done either in over 20 years. It was a gag then. Not so much now.
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THRAWN

Quote from: NIN on December 05, 2019, 07:34:08 pm
The Air SAR Ribbon (all blue), same color as the "Michigan Broadsword" National Guard longevity award.



Many years ago, I used to wear that one on my ribbon rack just to see who was paying attention. (yes, I know you weren't supposed to wear Guard ribbons)

You'd get a sharp-eyed cadet come up "Sir, uh, why do you have two Air SAR Ribbons?"

For a little while I also wore the mini-medal on my mess dress when it fit in the middle of the rack surrounded by other medals, almost totally hidden. I mean, come on, the medal has a SWORD on it!  It was a conversation piece.

Once in awhile someone would glance at my medals and say "Hey, uhh, wait a minute. What is _that_?"

I haven't done either in over 20 years. It was a gag then. Not so much now.


Thanks for making my collection of gongs look like junk. Guess they'll make great key fobs now....
Strup
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Dwight Dutton

Quote from: PHall on December 05, 2019, 06:31:59 pm
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on December 05, 2019, 01:06:31 pm
I am going to request a new CAP ribbon. All seven colors of the rainbow. For the largest and longest comparison of CAP ribbons to other countries, be these former or current ones.


The Army beat you on that about 40 years ago. The Army Training Ribbon. You get it for completing Basic Training.


I can remember in the late 1970's seeing Army Captains who had no ribbons at all.  But that was more than 40 years ago, ribbon inflation must have started just after that.

NIN

Quote from: THRAWN on December 05, 2019, 07:39:06 pm
Thanks for making my collection of gongs look like junk. Guess they'll make great key fobs now....


Right? I mean, I never had reason to wear medals in the Army National Guard (except when I got dress blues for my wedding.. Can't remember what I did for decorations then), so the suspension medal with device went essentially "unworn," hence why I wanted to stash it in the middle of my jingle-jangles on my CAP mess dress for fun.

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