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Tribal Land Squadron question

Started by Holding Pattern, October 30, 2019, 03:03:14 am

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SarDragon

Quote from: PHall on November 05, 2019, 09:32:09 pm
Quote from: Flying Pig on October 30, 2019, 12:05:52 pm
Quote from: Fubar on October 30, 2019, 05:24:13 am
Tribal lands are sovereign in regards to the law, however squadron charters fall solely under the purview of NHQ who decides what wing your chartered unit is a member of. And it's gonna be the state that you're in.


Well.... "sovereign" to a point.   Right up until the Sheriff comes and gets you on your tribal land and takes you to jail.  A lot of that depends on the state.



You guys were allowed on the Reservation only because the Tribe said you could come on the Reservation.
More then a few Tribes have banned State/County/City Law Enforcement from their Reservations. Usually because of stupidity on one or both sides in the past.
Most of the tribes here in California have no problems with the local sheriff coming on to their Reservation.
Don't even think of it on the Navajo Reservation in Arizona.


I was on a mission a bunch of years ago, on reservation land, and nobody seemed to care that we were there. The crash was initially located by aircraft, and the ground team went in to look for survivors (single occupant, no survivor) and assist the sheriff's helicopter.

NTSB report - LAX02FA049
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PHall

The tribes in Socal don't have a problem with us coming on their Reservations.
The Soboba Tribe wouldn't let Riv Co Sheriff on the Reservation for awhile but their problems were solved when a new sheriff was elected.

SarDragon

Quote from: PHall on November 06, 2019, 12:21:37 am
The tribes in Socal don't have a problem with us coming on their Reservations.
The Soboba Tribe wouldn't let Riv Co Sheriff on the Reservation for awhile but their problems were solved when a new sheriff was elected.


Interesting. That's exactly where this was, in Dec 2001.
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Flying Pig

I was a Deputy with Riverside Sheriff.   ;D  Ive had many a pursuit across their reservation. 

Eclipse

Quote from: Eclipse on November 05, 2019, 09:45:25 pm
Why is this a question?


Still no response.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to impose the administrative hassle and burdens,
not to mention potential lack of activities and missions being a pseudo-overseas unit, or
even a direct-to-NHQ unit would bring with it.

This makes no sense.



Fester

Quote from: Eclipse on November 06, 2019, 06:03:32 pm
Quote from: Eclipse on November 05, 2019, 09:45:25 pm
Why is this a question?


Still no response.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to impose the administrative hassle and burdens,
not to mention potential lack of activities and missions being a pseudo-overseas unit, or
even a direct-to-NHQ unit would bring with it.

This makes no sense.


I posited this question back on Oct 30.  Methinks we aren't going to get an answer.
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NIN

I think that this one has been discussed to the maximum extent needed.   These aren't the droids OP was looking for.

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