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Fester
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« on: October 02, 2019, 07:27:16 AM »

I see that NHQ rolled out the Diversity Report and Gender Report.  Does anyone have access to the gender ratios CAP-wide? By Wing?
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2019, 03:19:57 PM »

Where did that post this report?
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2019, 03:34:07 PM »

Will all 57 genders be represented, or is it more than that now?
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2019, 04:19:15 PM »

Will all 57 genders be represented, or is it more than that now?
Should I laugh or take this seriously?  :o
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2019, 05:28:11 PM »

Will all 57 genders be represented, or is it more than that now?
Should I laugh or take this seriously?  :o
Yes
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2019, 10:25:11 PM »

Will all 57 genders be represented, or is it more than that now?
Should I laugh or take this seriously?  :o
Yes
This made me LOL, good job, sir.  :clap:
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2019, 12:02:41 AM »

Will all 57 genders be represented, or is it more than that now?
Should I laugh or take this seriously?  :o

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A Sydney University online survey now offers a staggering FIFTY-SEVEN different possible answers to the simple question: “What is your gender identity?”

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/university-gender-identity-survey-offers-a-mind-boggling-57-different-options-but-none-are-simply-male-or-female/news-story/17622c51990990c13ab66a19f61701c6
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2019, 12:10:23 AM »

...  and we will go back on-topic now, thanks.

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2019, 06:01:43 AM »

So I'm guessing the answer to my question is no.
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2019, 12:36:46 PM »

A complete demographic breakdown was sent out to all the wing & region commanders a couple of weeks back. To include gender breakdown.

I believe all of this information will eventually find its way into the diversity reporting.





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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2019, 02:53:04 PM »

Hi, Fester.

The message was sent to us on Wednesday, September 11, 2019, from Lt Col Elizabeth A. Sydow, CAP, the National Diversity Officer.

MBR TYPE   FEMALE   MALE   MBR TYPE TOTAL   FEMALE MBR%   MALE MBR%
CADET   6709   20274   26983   24.86%   75.14%

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SENIOR   5,086   20,642   25,728   19.77%   80.23%



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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2019, 08:56:47 PM »

Hi, Fester.

The message was sent to us on Wednesday, September 11, 2019, from Lt Col Elizabeth A. Sydow, CAP, the National Diversity Officer.

MBR TYPE   FEMALE   MALE   MBR TYPE TOTAL   FEMALE MBR%   MALE MBR%
CADET   6709   20274   26983   24.86%   75.14%

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SENIOR   5,086   20,642   25,728   19.77%   80.23%



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And the exact meaning of each reported category is ...?  The discussion of and definition of the the word "gender" is increasingly murky.
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2019, 10:28:20 PM »

And the exact meaning of each reported category is ...?  The discussion of and definition of the the word "gender" is increasingly murky.

Not in CAP...yet (though how long that will last, and what the solution will be is anyone's guess).

More importantly, unless you know who your active members are, gender and diversity are literally meaningless.

This is another cart before the horse, or just wallpaper, unless it's part of a greater plan to normalize the membership and define "active".

There's also the non-trivial issue of the fact that "who joins CAP" is largely out of the hands of most Unit CCs, especially
in regards to cadets.

CAP needs to be inclusive.  That is an actionable, workable goal that can be objectively quantified, and even tested.
Diversity will come, or it won't after that, but who comes to the front door and walks in largely out of CAP's control.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 02:28:48 AM »

Hi, Fester.

The message was sent to us on Wednesday, September 11, 2019, from Lt Col Elizabeth A. Sydow, CAP, the National Diversity Officer.

MBR TYPE   FEMALE   MALE   MBR TYPE TOTAL   FEMALE MBR%   MALE MBR%
CADET   6709   20274   26983   24.86%   75.14%

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SENIOR   5,086   20,642   25,728   19.77%   80.23%



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And the exact meaning of each reported category is ...?  The discussion of and definition of the the word "gender" is increasingly murky.

You're asking me?

We come in male and female models. We welcome both.
We welcome all ethnicities and creeds and colors.
We also welcome those who have disabilities (physical or mental), including those which impair their ability to understand that they are male or female, because disabilities are protected.
We coexist, and work together, and value what we each bring to the organization.

We obey federal law by monitoring our accessions and personnel actions to ensure that no member regardless of their status above is denied participation in federally funded programs.

And beyond that - it just does NOT MATTER. We need to move on together, cutting short any discrimination against, or partisan advocacy of, one or another race, gender, faith, or personal image, because our CAP missions are not to promote or to attack Christianity or atheism, to celebrate diversity of cultures or any race monoculture, or to celebrate or attack either hetero or homo sexuality. It has no place here.

So, tracking percentages of gender and ethnicity, I get/support. Watching like a hawk and documenting everything from selection boards, to aircraft/vehicle assignments, to scholarship patterns, in order to ensure fairness - got that too. Beyond that - done. In our uniform, with our funding streams, we have no business dipping into the culture wars. No politics in the wardroom.

Done, full stop.

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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2019, 03:28:22 AM »

Hi, Fester.

The message was sent to us on Wednesday, September 11, 2019, from Lt Col Elizabeth A. Sydow, CAP, the National Diversity Officer.

MBR TYPE   FEMALE   MALE   MBR TYPE TOTAL   FEMALE MBR%   MALE MBR%
CADET   6709   20274   26983   24.86%   75.14%

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SENIOR   5,086   20,642   25,728   19.77%   80.23%



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Yes, that is exactly what I was wanting.  Thank you!
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2019, 03:39:18 AM »

I love a well asked and answered question.

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