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Eclipse
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2019, 03:10:23 AM »

Grabbed the wrong quote tag, sorry.
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2019, 04:00:18 AM »

So ... if funding and hours are increasing even though grass is being legalized ... leads me to ask what else is included in CD missions, other than looking for marijuana fields?  Maybe its a secret.
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2019, 04:13:51 AM »

Funding and hours, are in fact, not increasing.

2016 was actually the last significant year for CD, with a precipitous drop off in flight hours since.
Only 6 wings are still flying any CD at all.

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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2019, 05:07:08 AM »

2016 was actually the last significant year for CD, with a precipitous drop off in flight hours since.
2017 - $1, 257,794
2016 -     $871,871

Idd, that looks like a MAJOR increase to me. Facts are hard.
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2019, 06:04:15 AM »

^ Yes, they apparently are.

Have you, by chance, reviewed the actual flight hours and sortie statistics
for the last four fiscal years?

You might want to before making any more assertions.
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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2019, 06:08:40 AM »

^ Yes, they apparently are.

Have you, by chance, reviewed the actual flight hours and sortie statistics
for the last four fiscal years?

You might want to before making any more assertions.

You made the assertion that funds AND flight hours were decreasing.  I don't know where OldGuy got his numbers, but if they are accurate, it is abundantly clear that funds are NOT decreasing.  Seeing as there was ~50% increase from 2016 to 2017.
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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2019, 06:52:29 AM »

After reviewing the annual reports cited, these numbers make even less sense,
especially considering the substantial drop in hours.


Note that "contributed flying" for 2016 is suspiciously the exact same number
as the hours flown(?). 

Yet in 2017...

That line item is now over 264k, and the CD hours are not called out
separately in the report as they are in 2016.

The FY2018 CD budget is 1,129,648.

That's 128k less then 2018. Also note that "contributed flying" is also
about 1/2 year-to year.

One can only imagine what "facility maintenance" is, which seems to be
holding these budget numbers so high.

In FY2016, CAP flew 9682 hours counterdrug.

In FY2017 it was down to 6138.

In FY2018 is was down to 3540 with only 6 states flying CD.
(It also appears some HLS is in there?)

FY2019 is on a track to be lower then 2018.
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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2019, 08:53:09 PM »

How does CD have a $22,000 telephone bill?  How many people have dedicated CD cell phones? ;)
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2019, 08:54:40 PM »


One can only imagine what "facility maintenance" is, which seems to be
holding these budget numbers so high.


Maybe if a Squadron does at least one CD mission a year, the CD budget will pay their hangar rent for the entire year?  LOL
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« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2019, 02:51:04 PM »

Ive always found it somewhat amusing to know a CAP plane is in a CD mission, and hear it doing approaches with a missed to the hold over and over again for 2 hours  8)  CD has been more than "looking for weed".  Its not a huge secret, but I wont go in to that here.   But give it a couple years I think you'll see it dry up unless the definition of CD becomes more broad.  I've been out of it for a while, but I was the LE Liason for CAWG for a while.  It was a booming business there for a while.  I was flying several times per month 2-3 days in a row.  It seemed that the CD roles were mophing in to what looked more like what I would call a homeland security missions vs looking for dope. 
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