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NIN
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« on: February 13, 2019, 09:46:59 PM »

Sent this to my seniors this weekend, figured I'd follow it up here.

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I wanted to give anybody looking for the CAP Aviator shirt combo a heads up that there are some appropriate shirts in various sizes available on Ebay. An example is here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FLYING-CROSS-Mens-White-Long-Slv-Poly-Blend-Uniform-Shirt-24W5100-Sz-16-NEW/291659445982?hash=item43e841f6de:g:q-cAAOSwgNRV8xfd:rk:3:pf:1&frcectupt=true

Size 16, $9.00 with free shipping is a steal.  The same seller has shirts up to size 18.

I would caution: watch out when looking at aviator shirts, as many "aviator" shirts are actually law enforcement shirts and have different pocket designs.

The two kinds of pockets that are OK for CAP wear are shown below: angled and mitered.


The law enforcement/EMS versions of these shirts have scalloped pockets and the sewn-in vertical creases as pictured below. Those are a no-go for CAP wear.


Also, and this is just my personal preference: Van Heusen shirts, especially the "poplin" ones, are kind of thin and chintzy and "pill up" quickly. I've had very good luck with the "Flying Cross"-brand "Distinguished" line of shirts (they sell their blue shirts thru AAFES as the "premium" shirts..) These shirts have the mitered pockets just like the USAF blue shirt does. Their fabric is a little heavier, too.

Happy hunting!

Note: I'm not related to the Ebay seller in any way, but when I come across these, I buy them.

Also, and I forgot to mention this to my seniors: occasionally you'll get the nice white aviator shirt that has flapped pockets that are "false" and its actually an open topped pocket like a regular dress shirt. 5 minutes on a sewing machine with white thread fixes that up. 

Not that I know anybody who's gotten one of those or anything.. ::)

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supertigerCH
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2019, 11:05:06 PM »



When it comes to the CAP Aviator uniform, I have always liked the mitred pockets better

because they match the pocket style used on the U.S. Air Force blues uniform... 


hey, as long as CAP is also the U.S. Air Force Auxiliary... why not pattern our corporate uniforms after those of the Air Force  (even if not exactly the same in every way... at least try to parallel them in ways that are possible to do so.


(having said that,  yes both "straight angled" and "mitre angled" pocket styles are okay... for CAP members to wear on the Corporate / Aviator Uniform.)
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SarDragon
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2019, 01:31:16 AM »

Way back when the aviator uniform was introduced, the shirt available from the Bookstore was the Van Heusen Aviator version. This one has straight angled, functional pocket flaps, no insignia eyelets, and no pocket pleats. I take it that this is the preferred configuration.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2019, 03:11:04 PM »

www.pilotshirts.com


Their Pilot House brand has never disappointed me in fit or design, and is similar to the Flying Cross brand described above.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2019, 04:02:58 PM »

Great point, Chuck.

My only caveat to that whole thing is that I was pointing out to my seniors that pilot (aviator) shirts can be had cheaply in a variety of sources and configurations.

There's a tendency to default to the polo shirt because its "cheap" (well, not really), when in reality that's not the minimum basic uniform, nor should it be.

yes, you can get the silkscreened polo for for $27. Yes, you can get the regular embroidered polo for about $37 ($46 with customization), and the super-duper-tactical for about $48 ($57 with customization).

But you can also get the "minimum basic uniform" with a $9 aviator shirt on ebay, and $9 for epaulets and $4 for a nametag. Now you're you're all in except pants for around $22.  Even if you buy an aviator off the shelf on Amazon for $20-25, you're still all in for $33 to $38.

A pretty inexpensive uniform, and the one that meets the requirements.

 

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Dwight Dutton
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2019, 04:28:45 PM »

Great point, Chuck.

My only caveat to that whole thing is that I was pointing out to my seniors that pilot (aviator) shirts can be had cheaply in a variety of sources and configurations.

There's a tendency to default to the polo shirt because its "cheap" (well, not really), when in reality that's not the minimum basic uniform, nor should it be.
A pretty inexpensive uniform, and the one that meets the requirements.

I have made that point on a number of occasions - but as someone who wears w white (le style) shirt at work on a daily basis, I can tell you the actual issue here is maintenance.  I have seen white shirts that have gone a dingy grey with time, and people show up at exercises with one that are "too stained to wear to regular meetings".    The dark blue polo shirt needs no ironing, you can't put the insignia on it incorrectly, and most stains don't show.  They actually have to be seriously deteriorated before its noticeable.  The polo shirt is the uniform of, well, lazy people.
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Gunsotsu
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2019, 05:07:15 PM »

The polo shirt is the uniform of, well, lazy people more concerned with doing the job than the dog and pony show.

FTFY.
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Paul Creed III
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2019, 08:16:32 PM »

yes, you can get the silkscreened polo for for $27.

That abomination of clothing needs to go. Silkscreen polos look cheap and do not last.

/rant

Back to talking about aviator shirts. 
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