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Eclipse
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« on: September 19, 2018, 05:58:02 PM »

Last mission I was told CAP now uses numerical designators vs. alpha for Ground Teams.

IOW "This is Ground Team one" vs. "This is Ground Team Alpha".

Is this true?  Cite?

Or is the Goode Ider Fairy at work?
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Holding Pattern
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2018, 06:02:02 PM »

Since 2013 we've only used numerical designations.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2018, 06:34:26 PM »

Since 2013 we've only used numerical designations.

I can tell you that's not universal, but what prompted the change?
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Capmonkey
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2018, 06:35:54 PM »

Ever since I've been in (since 2013), it's always been Ground Team Alpha. Just stating my experience  :)
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 06:41:35 PM »

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Last mission I was told CAP now uses numerical designators vs. alpha for Ground Teams.

IOW "This is Ground Team one" vs. "This is Ground Team Alpha".

Is this true?  Cite?
Cite where the "former rule" about using alpha designators is.  Probably in the same place where it now says to use numerical designators. Just more pulling rabbits out of hats.

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arajca
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2018, 06:52:54 PM »

My experience has been Ground Team One, Two, Three, ad nauseum, since 2005.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2018, 07:03:23 PM »

I have never once in 18 years seen, heard, or used Alpha; it's always been 1, 2, 3, etc. for me. But I think on the next SAREX that I'm GBD for I'll use colors.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2018, 07:15:05 PM »

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Last mission I was told CAP now uses numerical designators vs. alpha for Ground Teams.

IOW "This is Ground Team one" vs. "This is Ground Team Alpha".

Is this true?  Cite?
Cite where the "former rule" about using alpha designators is.  Probably in the same place where it now says to use numerical designators. Just more pulling rabbits out of hats.

Who said "rule"?  Was just the practice in my region and on the major National real-worlds I'd been on.

Sounds like it's a "local practice" and a wives tail by me.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2018, 07:16:31 PM »

But I think on the next SAREX that I'm GBD for I'll use colors.

Dare you to use My Pretty Pony characters.

"Ground Team Applejack"
"Ground Team Rainbow Dash"
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2018, 07:17:32 PM »

I have never once in 18 years seen, heard, or used Alpha; it's always been 1, 2, 3, etc. for me. But I think on the next SAREX that I'm GBD for I'll use colors.

Actually, for security, team names now need to be Alpha-Numeric, and contain at least one special character.

"This is Ground Team Delta_Four%&".

And then each message should require 2-factor authentication.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2018, 07:19:48 PM »

Under CAPR 100-3, 1.8 Functional Designator Usage, you would use a two-digit numerical suffix if appropriate.

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2018, 07:20:17 PM »

<ERROR: Ground Team Name does not contain a numeric character. Please correct entry and resubmit>
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2018, 07:34:48 PM »

Is "Stinger One-One Actual" out of the question?  8)
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2018, 07:49:49 PM »

Is "Stinger One-One Actual" out of the question?  8)

Yeah, the Air Force doesn't do the "Alpha" thing. That's a Squid thing! >:D
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2018, 11:31:36 PM »

Last mission I was told CAP now uses numerical designators vs. alpha for Ground Teams.

IOW "This is Ground Team one" vs. "This is Ground Team Alpha".

Is this true?  Cite?

Or is the Goode Ider Fairy at work?
Our practice around these parts is to use the sortie number as the numerical designator.
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2018, 11:33:04 PM »

Under CAPR 100-3, 1.8 Functional Designator Usage, you would use a two-digit numerical suffix if appropriate.
One or two digit.
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2018, 11:44:30 PM »

So GT25 becomes GT32 later in the day?

I guess that works.
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2018, 11:52:34 PM »

So GT25 becomes GT32 later in the day?

I guess that works.
Yeah. It makes it easier to track what their current tasking is, especially when you’re running 7+ staging areas.
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2018, 07:59:31 AM »

I think combining them all is the best plan of action, that way no one gets left out, and we all know how important that is in our society today.

Red 1 Delta

Pink 7 X-ray

Tan 4 Tango

etc....

As a side note, our call out for finds has always been a musician or a band. I think last sarex it was Timberlake....

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Eclipse
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2018, 08:24:14 AM »

I think combining them all is the best plan of action, that way no one gets left out, and we all know how important that is in our society today.

Red 1 Delta

Pink 7 X-ray

Tan 4 Tango

etc....

"Alpha Velveeta Knuckle Underwear, you are cleared for takeoff."


As a side note, our call out for finds has always been a musician or a band. I think last sarex it was Timberlake....

This is no longer allowed, either, despite common usage.
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