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darkmatter
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« on: June 22, 2018, 07:42:22 AM »

I am getting to complete my Senior level rating which is the last thing I'm missing for my level 3, when I submit for my Level 3 how high up does it have to go i.e. does it only need to make it to my squadron commander or does it need to go up the the wing commanders desk. f.y.i. there are no groups in my wing.
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MSG Mac
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2018, 10:22:57 AM »

Wing level for III and IV, Region for Level V
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Michael P. McEleney
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CAP_truth
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2018, 12:00:10 PM »

Levels III, IV, and V are approved at the wing level. 
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Wilson
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2018, 12:09:04 PM »

Levels III, IV, and V are approved at the wing level.

CAPR 50-17, Page 23

"a. Application. Upon completion of all Level V professional development requirements,
the unitís PDO records the data on the memberís CAPF 45. The unit PDO or unit commander
completes an application for the Wilson Award using the online Professional Development
Awards Module in eServices. This application will be forwarded through the chain of command
for approval by the wing and region commanders. When approved, NHQ/DPR forwards the
certificate to the wing commander for presentation at an appropriate ceremony. Ribbons are
purchased through Vanguard."
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darkmatter
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2018, 12:24:13 PM »

thanks for the regs being include in the your response Eclipse
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CAP_truth
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2018, 11:54:10 AM »

All I know is that when my wing commander approves the level V it is recorded immediately in e-services.
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Wilson
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2018, 11:55:55 AM »

All I know is that when my wing commander approves the level V it is recorded immediately in e-services.

Does he also have region level rights?
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CAP_truth
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2018, 11:58:58 AM »

Yes Bob, but the previous wing commander didn't and got the same results.
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Wilson
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2018, 12:39:46 PM »

Yes Bob, but the previous wing commander didn't and got the same results.

My Wilson number was only issued after someone at Region HQ approved it.  No issue, just my experience from a month ago.
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Michael Willis, Lt. Col CAP
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2018, 12:41:30 PM »

I have sent my paper work in for my level 3 to be approved 5 months ago.  have inquired of my commander and the commander has resent it multiple times.   not sure what to do. I dont want to jump the chain of command, but really frustrated.  any suggestions?
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arajca
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2018, 12:55:34 PM »

Check Eservices or have your PDO check. IIRC, when I submitted my Level V last year, it was through Eservices. No paper involved.
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Eclipse
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2018, 01:10:32 PM »

Check Eservices or have your PDO check. IIRC, when I submitted my Level V last year, it was through Eservices. No paper involved.

+1 - if you sent paper, it's probably been round-filed.

If it went through eservices, someone is ignoring their queue.
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Dwight Dutton
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2018, 02:02:15 PM »

All I know is that when my wing commander approves the level V it is recorded immediately in e-services.

Does he also have region level rights?

I don't think it takes a Region commander to approve level 5.  It DOES take the Region commander to approve the LTC promotion that comes afterwards.
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Eclipse
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2018, 02:22:39 PM »

All I know is that when my wing commander approves the level V it is recorded immediately in e-services.

Does he also have region level rights?

I don't think it takes a Region commander to approve level 5.  It DOES take the Region commander to approve the LTC promotion that comes afterwards.

Region CC or designate must approve the Wilson Award / Level V.

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MacGruff
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2018, 05:41:07 PM »

I have sent my paper work in for my level 3 to be approved 5 months ago.  have inquired of my commander and the commander has resent it multiple times.   not sure what to do. I dont want to jump the chain of command, but really frustrated.  any suggestions?

CAP Guy - Not sure why you sent paper. Please do it via eServices. It does not take anywhere near as long and no one can claim that it was "lost", either.

All your records will show up there anyways so it should be a simple matter for your PDO to verify that you met all the Level 3 requirements and click the button which will generate an entry in you squadron commander's queue. From there it goes to Group - if you are in a Wing that has Groups - and the Wing. That's as far as it goes for Level 3.

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Dwight Dutton
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2018, 12:29:18 PM »

Region CC or designate must approve the Wilson Award / Level V.

Which makes even more sense now that Level 5 is required for O5.  Only thing that doesn't line up now is that you need a national school for it.  Just like you need a region school for the wing promotion that comes before it.
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CAP Guy
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2018, 05:39:39 PM »

I have look into doing it in eservices, but cant find it.  possibly I dont have rights to It.  My PD guy couldnt find it either.
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Lord of the North
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2018, 05:46:35 PM »

https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.MembershipSystem.Web/Member/PDAwards.aspx
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Eclipse
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2018, 05:59:36 PM »

https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.MembershipSystem.Web/Member/PDAwards.aspx

Have to have CC or PDO rights.
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MSG Mac
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2018, 07:19:25 PM »

 Or Personnel
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Michael P. McEleney
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2018, 10:23:58 PM »

I have look into doing it in eservices, but cant find it.  possibly I dont have rights to It.  My PD guy couldnt find it either.



I have asked the PDO and he can't find it in his eservices.  Also asked the squadron commander who also can't find in eservices in order to put it through. 
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Lord of the North
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2018, 10:39:57 PM »

It appears that those you asked have not been assigned the necessary privileges in e-services (personnel or PD officer specifically).

If the have been appointed they should have access at https://www.capnhq.gov/CAP.MembershipSystem.Web/Member/PDAwards.aspx
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