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huey
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« on: June 14, 2018, 04:44:03 PM »

Just finished the online Specialty test for Technician rating, now how can I get an approval for that? 
Already assigned with that track a few months ago.
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2018, 04:51:35 PM »

Just finished the online Specialty test for Technician rating, now how can I get an approval for that? 
Already assigned with that track a few months ago.

Assuming you passed, the credit for the test shows up in your training tab immediately, however there is
a lot more to do then just the test, there is a pamphlet for each rating which details the service and knowledge requirements
for each rating and each level within a respective rating.

D/L the pamphlet, find the checklist, substantiate what you did and give it to your PDO who will then
review it and submit it to the CC for approval via eServices.
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vorteks
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2018, 04:51:42 PM »

Just finished the online Specialty test for Technician rating, now how can I get an approval for that? 
Already assigned with that track a few months ago.

Sounds like youve only just scratched the surface. Find the track study guide for your specialty and read the technication rating checklist.
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huey
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2018, 05:12:23 PM »

Specialty Track 217 - Safety, Master Rating Quiz, Passed.

This note on my LMS (Course/Quiz Name) was not affected on MyQual as well?!?!
Just learning, taking the quiz/ test/ exam...then nothing happened after that at all.....
Why, How?
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2018, 05:14:20 PM »

Why are you taking the Master quiz for the tech rating.  I believe the fixed the
logic a while back and you can't get credit for a rating higher then you are due.

Look in the Training Tab of your personnel record to see if credit posted, though
even if it did, you took the wrong test.
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huey
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2018, 05:23:55 PM »

Why are you taking the Master quiz for the tech rating.  I believe the fixed the
logic a while back and you can't get credit for a rating higher then you are due.

Look in the Training Tab of your personnel record to see if credit posted, though
even if it did, you took the wrong test.

I got these quiz Tech, Sr, Master on Safety track years ago, but rating level on Safety still "None"
Just passed the Finance track test for Tech yesterday.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2018, 05:34:10 PM »

OK - honestly, I have no idea what you're asking.

But the process works as we indicated - substantiate the checklist from the pamphlet, pass the
test, quiz, whatever, PDO submits all work and TIG through eServices.

If you don't have passed quizzes, tests, whatever showing in the Training tab in your personnel
file, yo either didn't pass, or something broke.

The LMS shows all sorts of stuff not related to PD, and who knows what else.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2018, 05:38:44 PM »

Why are you taking the Master quiz for the tech rating.  I believe the fixed the
logic a while back and you can't get credit for a rating higher then you are due.

Look in the Training Tab of your personnel record to see if credit posted, though
even if it did, you took the wrong test.

I got these quiz Tech, Sr, Master on Safety track years ago, but rating level on Safety still "None"
Just passed the Finance track test for Tech yesterday.

As noted above, you need to chose a specialty that you want to train in, download the corresponding pamphlet (200 or 40 series), and accomplish the items on the Technician checklist. Any online tests are merely supplementary to the knowledge gained from reading the study materials, and working with a mentor. They are in no way a sole criterion for completion of the rating.
[ETA] I have taken, and passed, on a whim, several of the online tests for various specialty tracks. Am I qualified to perform in any of those positions? Not a chance. It just means that I have been in CAP long enough to have gained a significant amount of basic knowledge in these areas. As a comparison, knowing the rules for chess does not automatically make someone a good chess player.
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huey
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2018, 06:17:39 PM »

Thanks SarDragon and Eclipse, now it's all clear how it works!!  Lot of works need to be done before getting rating!
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2018, 08:07:09 PM »


... and working with a mentor.


Seems to be one of the biggest problems CAP has, in my short lived experience here.

I think a big part of our retention issues would be solved, if each new face walking in the door actually had a friendly, interested, mentor who would help guide them step by step through at least the stuff needed for the first year. I had an absentee PDO, and no mentor. Had to search out all this stuff myself, until I finally got to know a few folks well enough, to where I could ask them questions without feeling dumb.

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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2018, 08:58:52 PM »


... and working with a mentor.


Seems to be one of the biggest problems CAP has, in my short lived experience here.

I think a big part of our retention issues would be solved, if each new face walking in the door actually had a friendly, interested, mentor who would help guide them step by step through at least the stuff needed for the first year. I had an absentee PDO, and no mentor. Had to search out all this stuff myself, until I finally got to know a few folks well enough, to where I could ask them questions without feeling dumb.

You have a mentor, aka your squadron commander. They're the one who approves all of your speciality rating stuff and they're the one who needs you to fill a slot in the unit.
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2018, 09:11:33 PM »

Unit CC's are required to sign off that they have assigned a mentor to every new adult member.
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2018, 10:31:10 PM »


You have a mentor, aka your squadron commander.


Ummm. No, not online.
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2018, 12:05:40 AM »


You have a mentor, aka your squadron commander.


Ummm. No, not online.

When you complete an online specialty track test it does show up on the Commanders Dashboard.
What they do with that information is up to them.
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MacGruff
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2018, 04:54:18 PM »

Unit CC's are required to sign off that they have assigned a mentor to every new adult member.

Um... Eclipse... that statement you made? Quoted above? I do not believe it's true. At least, I've never seen any evidence of that requirement...

Of course, I've not had the pleasure of being a squadron commander either.

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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2018, 05:06:57 PM »

Unit CC's are required to sign off that they have assigned a mentor to every new adult member.

Um... Eclipse... that statement you made? Quoted above? I do not believe it's true. At least, I've never seen any evidence of that requirement...

Of course, I've not had the pleasure of being a squadron commander either.

CAPF 12 (Member Application), backside:
https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/F012_Fillable_Mar_17_052D10F8D1B5D.pdf


CC must sign and certify a mentor has been assigned.

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MacGruff
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2018, 08:20:35 PM »

Wow!

I stand corrected.

Thanks,
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2018, 08:25:48 PM »


You have a mentor, aka your squadron commander.


Ummm. No.

Doesn't seem to happen. Have never heard the CC ask if anyone would like to be a mentor when new folks come in, so he could assign them.

I was determined and figured out most everything on my own, but have full sympathy for those who get frustrated. I always give new folks my email and cell and tell them to ask away. Not listed as an "official mentor", but I try to help others since I know what its like.

(Edited to add I was told we have PDO, but he is absentee. Haven't seen him in 2 1/2 years. At last years Wing Conference, he received an award for being a great PDO.   SMH.    Yet another reason I don't go to award banquets.)
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2018, 11:02:01 PM »

Unit CC's are required to sign off that they have assigned a mentor to every new adult member.

Um... Eclipse... that statement you made? Quoted above? I do not believe it's true. At least, I've never seen any evidence of that requirement...

Of course, I've not had the pleasure of being a squadron commander either.

CAPF 12 (Member Application), backside:
https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/F012_Fillable_Mar_17_052D10F8D1B5D.pdf


CC must sign and certify a mentor has been assigned.

I haven't taken the course yet, but this post should be a mandatory slide in the UCC.
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2018, 09:57:33 PM »

It's also required that all staff members have a rating in, or are on track to obtain a rating within 6 months, for the position they are staffing. Otherwise it's an Area of Concern on the commander's worksheet, aka the E1 tab, on the SUI. I've had to ding squadrons on that a couple of times.

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Verify that the staffing has a rating or is enrolled to obtain a rating within 6 months of assignment if no then it should be an AOC in the E-1 Commander tab.

https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/static/media/cms/Quality_Assurance_Checklist_SUI_201_B831E09C6ED63.pdf
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2018, 10:06:32 PM »

One thing I found recently, and mentioned here, was that duty assignments automatically
enroll the member in the respective track with a rating of "none", so that really shouldn't be a "thing" any more.
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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2018, 11:09:22 PM »

One thing I found recently, and mentioned here, was that duty assignments automatically
enroll the member in the respective track with a rating of "none", so that really shouldn't be a "thing" any more.

This is true and all it does is keep an SUI AOC from happening.  I have seen too many people be in a duty position for years and never attain a technician rating.  I'm not sure what good it is to have this as an SUI question.  Maybe something like "If member has been in duty position for more than XX months then they should have at least a technician rating."  I know there are ways around that as well but the way the SUI looks at this area is basically useless and it was even before eServices did the automatic enrollment.
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2018, 11:15:47 PM »

Good mentor-ship: in my first year back - scanner wings, level II twice. Absent mentor-ship - not so much!
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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2018, 02:01:28 AM »

Maybe something like "If member has been in duty position for more than XX months then they should have at least a technician rating."

Actually that's exactly what it's used for, since it identifies either members who possibly need to work more towards improving their skillset within their duty position, or the issue of a OTJ trainer or professional development officer not doing their jobs.
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« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2018, 07:14:00 AM »

One thing I found recently, and mentioned here, was that duty assignments automatically
enroll the member in the respective track with a rating of "none", so that really shouldn't be a "thing" any more.

If anything, this will discourage members from becoming true SMEs. Instead of excelling at one duty assignment, members are sent down the path of being mediocre at several.
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2018, 09:10:41 AM »

One thing I found recently, and mentioned here, was that duty assignments automatically
enroll the member in the respective track with a rating of "none", so that really shouldn't be a "thing" any more.

This is true and all it does is keep an SUI AOC from happening.  I have seen too many people be in a duty position for years and never attain a technician rating.  I'm not sure what good it is to have this as an SUI question.  Maybe something like "If member has been in duty position for more than XX months then they should have at least a technician rating."  I know there are ways around that as well but the way the SUI looks at this area is basically useless and it was even before eServices did the automatic enrollment.

I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more).  Not that AoCs matter in the long run, but it is a little nudge to the Squadron CC and Staff member.  I also talk to Wing Staff members about monitoring, mentoring and encouraging their Squadron counterparts to progress through the respective specialty track.
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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2018, 09:34:36 AM »

One thing I found recently, and mentioned here, was that duty assignments automatically
enroll the member in the respective track with a rating of "none", so that really shouldn't be a "thing" any more.

This is true and all it does is keep an SUI AOC from happening.  I have seen too many people be in a duty position for years and never attain a technician rating.  I'm not sure what good it is to have this as an SUI question.  Maybe something like "If member has been in duty position for more than XX months then they should have at least a technician rating."  I know there are ways around that as well but the way the SUI looks at this area is basically useless and it was even before eServices did the automatic enrollment.

I do the same thing.

I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more).  Not that AoCs matter in the long run, but it is a little nudge to the Squadron CC and Staff member.  I also talk to Wing Staff members about monitoring, mentoring and encouraging their Squadron counterparts to progress through the respective specialty track.
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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2018, 10:24:27 AM »

All this did / does was close an unfunded / unenforceable mandate hole in the inspection process.
It was a constant source of unnecessary discrepancies that just mandated administrative action to no benefit.
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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2018, 11:56:27 AM »

One thing I found recently, and mentioned here, was that duty assignments automatically
enroll the member in the respective track with a rating of "none", so that really shouldn't be a "thing" any more.

This is true and all it does is keep an SUI AOC from happening.  I have seen too many people be in a duty position for years and never attain a technician rating.  I'm not sure what good it is to have this as an SUI question.  Maybe something like "If member has been in duty position for more than XX months then they should have at least a technician rating."  I know there are ways around that as well but the way the SUI looks at this area is basically useless and it was even before eServices did the automatic enrollment.

I do the same thing.

I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more).  Not that AoCs matter in the long run, but it is a little nudge to the Squadron CC and Staff member.  I also talk to Wing Staff members about monitoring, mentoring and encouraging their Squadron counterparts to progress through the respective specialty track.

Just keep in mind that some tracks (R&R for example) take 2 years minimum in CAP and require another track be at technician before you can get to technician level there.
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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2018, 01:03:15 PM »

I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more).  Not that AoCs matter in the long run, but it is a little nudge to the Squadron CC and Staff member.  I also talk to Wing Staff members about monitoring, mentoring and encouraging their Squadron counterparts to progress through the respective specialty track.

Not exactly within the purview of an SUI inspector. The inspector's job is to find and report the facts; any action after that is a command decision.
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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2018, 01:06:40 PM »


I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more). 


Nearly three years now and I'm not working on a track. I'm a Mission Pilot, Airborne Photographer, Mission Observer, Mission Scanner. I fly several hours a month on Army Missions, O'Rides, Transport, and more as needed. I've brought in new Cadets to the squadron and help in that area when I can. I stay so busy being active, that I don't have enough hours to work on tracks to get a certificate. I'm a worker bee. Maybe at our last SUI someone "wrote us up" because of me. I don't know. But ask any squadron members and they'll tell you they are very happy with my contributions. That means more to me that any ribbon, certificate, or rank.
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« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2018, 01:13:42 PM »


I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more). 


Nearly three years now and I'm not working on a track. I'm a Mission Pilot, Airborne Photographer, Mission Observer, Mission Scanner. I fly several hours a month on Army Missions, O'Rides, Transport, and more as needed. I've brought in new Cadets to the squadron and help in that area when I can. I stay so busy being active, that I don't have enough hours to work on tracks to get a certificate. I'm a worker bee. Maybe at our last SUI someone "wrote us up" because of me. I don't know. But ask any squadron members and they'll tell you they are very happy with my contributions. That means more to me that any ribbon, certificate, or rank.

You may want to consider being in the ES track.
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« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2018, 02:05:16 PM »


I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more). 


Nearly three years now and I'm not working on a track. I'm a Mission Pilot, Airborne Photographer, Mission Observer, Mission Scanner. I fly several hours a month on Army Missions, O'Rides, Transport, and more as needed. I've brought in new Cadets to the squadron and help in that area when I can. I stay so busy being active, that I don't have enough hours to work on tracks to get a certificate. I'm a worker bee. Maybe at our last SUI someone "wrote us up" because of me. I don't know. But ask any squadron members and they'll tell you they are very happy with my contributions. That means more to me that any ribbon, certificate, or rank.

Do you have an actual, appointed staff role within the unit?
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« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2018, 02:05:47 PM »


I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more). 


Nearly three years now and I'm not working on a track. I'm a Mission Pilot, Airborne Photographer, Mission Observer, Mission Scanner. I fly several hours a month on Army Missions, O'Rides, Transport, and more as needed. I've brought in new Cadets to the squadron and help in that area when I can. I stay so busy being active, that I don't have enough hours to work on tracks to get a certificate. I'm a worker bee. Maybe at our last SUI someone "wrote us up" because of me. I don't know. But ask any squadron members and they'll tell you they are very happy with my contributions. That means more to me that any ribbon, certificate, or rank.

You may want to consider being in the ES track.

I was assigned to it when I joined, but as I said, time is an issue. As well as so many things on the list of things to do, that don't exist in our squadron. I forget now, is been a couple years, but things like a library and certain file keeping, or some things like that that don't exist and can't be pulled together for some reason. I'll try and go back soon and look. We have ES officers in our squadron, so they must have skipped over the things I mention.  Kind of like when I started AP a couple years ago and so much of the Mission Task Guide was out of date and we just had to skip some items on the SQTR sheet. Some times you just have to "make do".  LOL

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« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2018, 02:50:54 PM »


I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more). 


Nearly three years now and I'm not working on a track. I'm a Mission Pilot, Airborne Photographer, Mission Observer, Mission Scanner. I fly several hours a month on Army Missions, O'Rides, Transport, and more as needed. I've brought in new Cadets to the squadron and help in that area when I can. I stay so busy being active, that I don't have enough hours to work on tracks to get a certificate. I'm a worker bee. Maybe at our last SUI someone "wrote us up" because of me. I don't know. But ask any squadron members and they'll tell you they are very happy with my contributions. That means more to me that any ribbon, certificate, or rank.

You may want to consider being in the ES track.

I was assigned to it when I joined, but as I said, time is an issue. As well as so many things on the list of things to do, that don't exist in our squadron. I forget now, is been a couple years, but things like a library and certain file keeping, or some things like that that don't exist and can't be pulled together for some reason. I'll try and go back soon and look. We have ES officers in our squadron, so they must have skipped over the things I mention.  Kind of like when I started AP a couple years ago and so much of the Mission Task Guide was out of date and we just had to skip some items on the SQTR sheet. Some times you just have to "make do".  LOL

The training plan and library are the only 2 checkboxes that you probably haven't fulfilled. TBH, Neither of them take terribly long, especially if you work on it with another person.

And there really isn't a time limit.
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« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2018, 07:20:44 PM »

I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more).  Not that AoCs matter in the long run, but it is a little nudge to the Squadron CC and Staff member.  I also talk to Wing Staff members about monitoring, mentoring and encouraging their Squadron counterparts to progress through the respective specialty track.

Not exactly within the purview of an SUI inspector. The inspector's job is to find and report the facts; any action after that is a command decision.

It is a fact that the Staff Officer has not progressed in a reasonable amount of time.  It is noted for the use of the Commander.  He or she can do whatever they want with this information.

Area of Concern (AoC). A special inspection report entry indicating a minor weakness which does not violate a directive and is listed when mission accomplishment, program purpose or membership satisfaction is impaired or threatened.

In whatever role we serve in CAP, whether it be flying, ground pounding or in an administrative function, we should strive to be proficient, knowledgeable and up to date.  Surely, progression in your specialty track can help with this.
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« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2018, 07:29:21 PM »

Surely, progression in your specialty track can help with this.

No one would argue this, per se, but progression in a given track is not required, which makes the AoC
a waste of time.  They are, for the most part, ignored on the whole. (Probably something to bring up
in the IG thread).

Do you fire an otherwise effective staffer because he's not interested in PD?

The reality is, the effective staff officers generally complete the requirements as a matter of
course in their duties, and the ineffective ones will just check the boxes and move on.

A unit with the charter minimums does not generally have the manpower to be bulldogging people
about something they aren't generally interested in already.
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« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2018, 08:28:03 PM »

A unit with the charter minimums does not generally have the manpower to be bulldogging people about something they aren't generally interested in already.

Bingo! More often than not, staff officers wear two, three or more hats. This nonsense about activity pursuing multiple Specialty Tracks or the unit is going to get dinged needs to stop. The PDO who also gets pressed into covering admin and personnel won't have the time to get really good at PD if he's too busy chasing his tail with other ratings - to the detriment of the member and unit.
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« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2018, 09:33:31 PM »


I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more). 


Nearly three years now and I'm not working on a track. I'm a Mission Pilot, Airborne Photographer, Mission Observer, Mission Scanner. I fly several hours a month on Army Missions, O'Rides, Transport, and more as needed. I've brought in new Cadets to the squadron and help in that area when I can. I stay so busy being active, that I don't have enough hours to work on tracks to get a certificate. I'm a worker bee. Maybe at our last SUI someone "wrote us up" because of me. I don't know. But ask any squadron members and they'll tell you they are very happy with my contributions. That means more to me that any ribbon, certificate, or rank.

You may want to consider being in the ES track.

I was assigned to it when I joined, but as I said, time is an issue. As well as so many things on the list of things to do, that don't exist in our squadron. I forget now, is been a couple years, but things like a library and certain file keeping, or some things like that that don't exist and can't be pulled together for some reason. I'll try and go back soon and look. We have ES officers in our squadron, so they must have skipped over the things I mention.  Kind of like when I started AP a couple years ago and so much of the Mission Task Guide was out of date and we just had to skip some items on the SQTR sheet. Some times you just have to "make do".  LOL

The training plan and library are the only 2 checkboxes that you probably haven't fulfilled. TBH, Neither of them take terribly long, especially if you work on it with another person.

And there really isn't a time limit.

I'm sure you are probably correct. I looked at the Technician test awhile back and at only 20 questions, knocked that out quickly one night. I still need IS-800.    100,200, and 700 all seemed very repetitive to me. I'll see what 800 is like soon.
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« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2018, 11:10:19 PM »

My understanding from my recent SUI is that AoCís are no longer a thing. It also does not appear in the ratings definition section of the SUI template. It might still be somewhere else, I didnít look that hard.


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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2018, 01:33:17 AM »


I will still write up a SUI AoC if the member has not progressed to Technician or Senior in a reasonable amount of time (2 years or more). 


Nearly three years now and I'm not working on a track. I'm a Mission Pilot, Airborne Photographer, Mission Observer, Mission Scanner. I fly several hours a month on Army Missions, O'Rides, Transport, and more as needed. I've brought in new Cadets to the squadron and help in that area when I can. I stay so busy being active, that I don't have enough hours to work on tracks to get a certificate. I'm a worker bee. Maybe at our last SUI someone "wrote us up" because of me. I don't know. But ask any squadron members and they'll tell you they are very happy with my contributions. That means more to me that any ribbon, certificate, or rank.

You may want to consider being in the ES track.

I was assigned to it when I joined, but as I said, time is an issue. As well as so many things on the list of things to do, that don't exist in our squadron. I forget now, is been a couple years, but things like a library and certain file keeping, or some things like that that don't exist and can't be pulled together for some reason. I'll try and go back soon and look. We have ES officers in our squadron, so they must have skipped over the things I mention.  Kind of like when I started AP a couple years ago and so much of the Mission Task Guide was out of date and we just had to skip some items on the SQTR sheet. Some times you just have to "make do".  LOL

The training plan and library are the only 2 checkboxes that you probably haven't fulfilled. TBH, Neither of them take terribly long, especially if you work on it with another person.

And there really isn't a time limit.

I'm sure you are probably correct. I looked at the Technician test awhile back and at only 20 questions, knocked that out quickly one night. I still need IS-800.    100,200, and 700 all seemed very repetitive to me. I'll see what 800 is like soon.

IS800 recently got redone by FEMA. It isn't the snoozefest it used to be, though it is still a bit dry.
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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2018, 12:31:26 PM »

My understanding from my recent SUI is that AoCís are no longer a thing. It also does not appear in the ratings definition section of the SUI template. It might still be somewhere else, I didnít look that hard.


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Huh. Yeah they did take AoCs out, I just looked through the SUI Report template.
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« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2018, 05:19:24 PM »

My understanding from my recent SUI is that AoCís are no longer a thing. It also does not appear in the ratings definition section of the SUI template. It might still be somewhere else, I didnít look that hard.


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Huh. Yeah they did take AoCs out, I just looked through the SUI Report template.

SUI Inspectors are still encouraged to detail and list AoCs under the Identified Weakness section, and they will remain in the final version of the SUI Report.  They are not counted in the area that details the Mission Grades and number of Discrepancies or Commendables.

AoCs are in the draft version of the Wing CI Report, but removed in the final version.
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