Activities are simply being denied.
We can't do it anymore.At least this is what I've been told. A formal policy with justification isn't being written. Activities are simply being denied.
QuoteActivities are simply being denied.So I guess a question of mine would be: why is your Wing HQ involved in determining what activities you conduct when it's not an HAA event? Do you have a Wing policy on that?
QuoteWe can't do it anymore.At least this is what I've been told. A formal policy with justification isn't being written. Activities are simply being denied.Fact check that one before going full Chicken Little here. That news hasn't made it down into the weeds. And as you said, no formal policy from NHQ on the matter; therefore, it isn't a 'thing.'
I've often thought that CAP was going to ORM itself out of a job, and I'm seeing that come to fruition more and more every day.The silliness I've seen inflicted today is that directing people in vehicles on where to park is no longer an allowed activity for cadets or senior members.It doesn't matter if the host location has insurance coverage that specifically includes the volunteers.It doesn't matter if the squadron purchases a separate event insurance coverage certificate.We can't do it anymore.At least this is what I've been told. A formal policy with justification isn't being written. Activities are simply being denied.---Can someone cite for me any regulation, statute, supplement, OI or court case that makes this new unwritten and unjustified (to members) policy make sense?Does this mean CAP's effectiveness in managing PODs will necessitate a separate group working for us when directing traffic through the distribution lanes is needed?
The assumption is competent wing legal officers.
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on June 09, 2018, 01:21:06 AMQuoteActivities are simply being denied.So I guess a question of mine would be: why is your Wing HQ involved in determining what activities you conduct when it's not an HAA event? Do you have a Wing policy on that? Like all the new policies, an unwritten one here. Our wing legal officer has full preemption over all unit activities outside of regular squadron meetings.QuoteQuoteWe can't do it anymore.At least this is what I've been told. A formal policy with justification isn't being written. Activities are simply being denied.Fact check that one before going full Chicken Little here. That news hasn't made it down into the weeds. And as you said, no formal policy from NHQ on the matter; therefore, it isn't a 'thing.'I did fact check it. This is the new unofficial policy in our wing. Unfortunately this means that among other things, our squadron won't be participating in events they've participated in for over 10 years. It also has implications for our dwindling role in ES.Hence why I posted here. I'm looking for anything written one way or another that I can use to fight back against what I believe to be bad policies. If I have examples of other wings, units, and regions allowing it, that gives me ammunition to use to provide a counter to these unwritten policies.If I have everyone on here tell me that under no circumstances should CAP ever be near a car under the power of a non-CAP member, then that tells me that our wing is just getting with the times and we have yet another activity we cannot do.
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on June 09, 2018, 01:21:06 AMQuoteActivities are simply being denied.So I guess a question of mine would be: why is your Wing HQ involved in determining what activities you conduct when it's not an HAA event? Do you have a Wing policy on that? Like all the new policies, an unwritten one here. Our wing legal officer has full preemption over all unit activities outside of regular squadron meetings.QuoteQuoteWe can't do it anymore.At least this is what I've been told. A formal policy with justification isn't being written. Activities are simply being denied.Fact check that one before going full Chicken Little here. That news hasn't made it down into the weeds. And as you said, no formal policy from NHQ on the matter; therefore, it isn't a 'thing.'I did fact check it. This is the new unofficial policy in our wing.
Unfortunately this means that among other things, our squadron won't be participating in events they've participated in for over 10 years. It also has implications for our dwindling role in ES.Hence why I posted here. I'm looking for anything written one way or another that I can use to fight back against what I believe to be bad policies. If I have examples of other wings, units, and regions allowing it, that gives me ammunition to use to provide a counter to these unwritten policies.If I have everyone on here tell me that under no circumstances should CAP ever be near a car under the power of a non-CAP member, then that tells me that our wing is just getting with the times and we have yet another activity we cannot do.
Unfortunately this means that among other things, our squadron won't be participating in events they've participated in for over 10 years..
It also has implications for our dwindling role in ES
Quote from: Holding Pattern on June 09, 2018, 01:52:54 AM It also has implications for our dwindling role in ESUnless I missed an updated recently "parking cars" is not a part of CAP's ES capabilities.
Quote from: Eclipse on June 09, 2018, 09:59:44 PMQuote from: Holding Pattern on June 09, 2018, 01:52:54 AM It also has implications for our dwindling role in ESUnless I missed an updated recently "parking cars" is not a part of CAP's ES capabilities.Are you familiar with Points of Distribution?
With proper training and supervision, there is very little danger in parking lot operations. Don't stand in the road, and never stand in front of the car being parked. If grandpa hits the gas instead of the brakes, he'll hit something other than you.My former squadron has been doing parking details for as long as anyone can remember. Zero injures, and tens of thousands of dollars in the bank.
My first time as a parking attendant was in the early 70s as a cadet, and it got me a pot pass to the Grand Prix (that was the event).
Quote from: OldGuy on June 10, 2018, 07:58:53 PMMy first time as a parking attendant was in the early 70s as a cadet, and it got me a pot pass to the Grand Prix (that was the event). Was that the area behind the bleachers just out of eye-shot of security?