You wouldn't think it would be an issue. But who else here has taken a checkride from a CAP check pilot that was in an incomplete uniform?
Quote from: mdickinson on May 07, 2018, 01:43:12 AMYou wouldn't think it would be an issue. But who else here has taken a checkride from a CAP check pilot that was in an incomplete uniform?Not to call out a minor thing, but if any one has an ear of the National Commander, can someone please tell him that his Kuwait Liberation Medal (Government of Kuwait) and the Kuwait Liberation Medal (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) are in the wrong spot.
But they're not. They're foreign awards and go at the bottom of the stack. Check 39-3.
Quote from: THRAWN on May 07, 2018, 02:43:39 PMBut they're not. They're foreign awards and go at the bottom of the stack. Check 39-3.Duh, I always forget they are foreign awards. Thanks.
Quote from: LSThiker on May 07, 2018, 03:32:46 PMQuote from: THRAWN on May 07, 2018, 02:43:39 PMBut they're not. They're foreign awards and go at the bottom of the stack. Check 39-3.Duh, I always forget they are foreign awards. Thanks.RTFM before you post...
But then whatever would we discuss?
Quote from: THRAWN on May 07, 2018, 05:34:25 PMBut then whatever would we discuss?Indeed. It only took two pages for this thread on pilots/planes/accidents ... to get sidetracked to how a badge should be worn on a uniform.I guess the number of airplane incidents would drop, if folks would just get their ribbons and badges placed correctly.
Quote from: etodd on May 07, 2018, 07:05:22 PMQuote from: THRAWN on May 07, 2018, 05:34:25 PMBut then whatever would we discuss?Indeed. It only took two pages for this thread on pilots/planes/accidents ... to get sidetracked to how a badge should be worn on a uniform.I guess the number of airplane incidents would drop, if folks would just get their ribbons and badges placed correctly. It's called attention to detail and it applies to many things. Uniforms, chart reading, flying...
The off-topic uniform nonsense got moved to its own topic.
If they're disregarded that simple reg, what else are they disregarding?
You're missing the points made about joining the organization and not just the one department you like.In any number of threads you've made proud points about owning the MBU but never wearing itlike that's some how a good thing.CAP doesn't need "pilots", it needs "members". Members who fully participate and who don't fall back on "well no one at my unit has ever said anything", etc.
QuoteIf they're disregarded that simple reg, what else are they disregarding? Obviously a member that disregards the rules should be immediately grounded. They are no longer being professional and are thus unsafe. Like all the great military, CAP, civilian leaders that just disregarded that driving law today. Where do we draw the line on this, though? Do we not see the irony in this sentiment? We named an award after an aviator that disregarded the rules to prove a point. But we ignore that because he was right (which I agree were bad rules designed to make him fail). Is it not possible that yes that pilot is a darn great pilot even if his boots are not properly laced?Or have we gotten to the point we are scared of our own shadow?I agree with Gen Smith and hope a change for the better can be made.
A member is not just someone who paid their dues and does whatever they feel like. It's someone who assimilates and conforms to the standards set.
Whoa, wait - a uniform thread drifting into safety? Say it isn't so.