CAP is essentially a private organization that tries to be military.
As far as the person in the "Golf Shirt", well, if they want to do it right then I can help them. If they don't, and CAP doesn't care, probably not much I can do.
In the end, does it matter whats on my sleeve or shoulder?
SW Chief if you want to do what you claim then you need to learn and adapt to the AF culture and leave the Navyisms at the door.
As a CAP NCO, when you interact with outside agencies, be prepared to be asked "Where can I find the person in charge?" Sorta like when someone comes to the door and asks my kids if their parents are home. And no, Im not being a smart----. Fire, Police and EMS may not know what all those stripes are called... but they know leaves and bars out rank stripes. The fact that you were an E8 in whatever branch you were in means little to nothing when dealing with Public Safety organizations.
...Currently the only difference I can see is that the NCO can't be in a Commander...
1. When will the applicable regulations and manuals be published?
2. Is there a plan for eventually requiring all new members to start as Enlisted and go through an Officer course for Commissioning? (had that until the early 60's)
3. Will the Air Force allow NCO's to take the online PD courses for NCO's?
Quote from: MSG Mac on March 06, 2017, 03:13:22 PM1. When will the applicable regulations and manuals be published?Your guess is as good as mine.Quote2. Is there a plan for eventually requiring all new members to start as Enlisted and go through an Officer course for Commissioning? (had that until the early 60's)As of right now. No.Quote3. Will the Air Force allow NCO's to take the online PD courses for NCO's?Yes. The USAF has said that they would allow our NCO's to take the PD courses. This is tied into the NCO centric CAP PD that is.....still in development.
Quote from: MSG Mac on March 06, 2017, 03:13:22 PM...Currently the only difference I can see is that the NCO can't be in a Commander...For a number of years this was included in a reg somewhere, however I can't find it nor can I find anold version of a reg that was revised.Was this prohibition removed? If not, where does it live? I was all over and 20-1, 20-3, 35-1,35-3 & 35-5
Quote from: Eclipse on March 06, 2017, 05:25:54 PMQuote from: MSG Mac on March 06, 2017, 03:13:22 PM...Currently the only difference I can see is that the NCO can't be in a Commander...For a number of years this was included in a reg somewhere, however I can't find it nor can I find anold version of a reg that was revised.Was this prohibition removed? If not, where does it live? I was all over and 20-1, 20-3, 35-1,35-3 & 35-5Closest thing I see is in 35-5, paragraph 6.4
Quote from: THRAWN on March 06, 2017, 06:06:19 PMQuote from: Eclipse on March 06, 2017, 05:25:54 PMQuote from: MSG Mac on March 06, 2017, 03:13:22 PM...Currently the only difference I can see is that the NCO can't be in a Commander...For a number of years this was included in a reg somewhere, however I can't find it nor can I find anold version of a reg that was revised.Was this prohibition removed? If not, where does it live? I was all over and 20-1, 20-3, 35-1,35-3 & 35-5Closest thing I see is in 35-5, paragraph 6.4That's the weird thing - I know at some point there was a specific prohibition, but now all I can find is that verbiage aboutNCOs coming in and out of the officer grades, which implies the prohibition, but doesn't explicitly say it.
Well like I said above, the current Commander of Sq 6750 in CAWG is a CMSgt. So I guess they can imply it all they want, but they're not acting to stop an NCO from being a Unit Commander.
In addition, NCOs will be eligible for any CAP position, including pilots, at all organizational levels – squadron, group, wing, region or national – except for those reserved for officers, such as unit commander.
Fair enough, but where in an actual regulation is command reserved for Officers? I know it was in there somewhere, I can't believe no one has dug it out yet from either a current or revised document.