Quote from: Spam on September 11, 2016, 08:25:00 PMRecognizing that courses taken entirely on line are not acceptable, but that a local hands on element led by local personnel coupled with an online course could meet the requirement, could the Health Services team please research, compare, evaluate, and recommend courses which combine an affordable (preferably free) package of training that meets the standards cited in the excerpt below. ....In my post suggesting Emergency Medical Responder certification I did not discuss cost like the OP requested. Browsing the web, EMR courses range seems to be about $300 and up, BUT this course can be taught by an EMT-B and many units have one of these. I'm researching what additional training, if any, an EMT-B needs to be an instructor.Alternatively, a CAP group, for example, could pay for a member's training as an ARC First Aid/ CPR instructor. Then I think that member could give classes for any price including free (text must be purchased).However, as I've stated previously, IMO, the 8 hour ARC course is very nearly worthless for providing actual care in an emergency. The CPR portion of the ARC course is very abbreviated . So as a practical matter, I would not bother with that certification unless there is some specific need. The recommended compression only CPR is so simple that it takes only minutes to learn. What I do instead is borrow CPR dummies from our local ARC chapter and have interested members practice it a AT LEAST TWICE a year.. IMO PRACTICE is key to maintaining CPR skills. The American Heart Association offers "CPR for health care providers" which is what EMT-B must take. It's a very complete and useful course but not free.
Recognizing that courses taken entirely on line are not acceptable, but that a local hands on element led by local personnel coupled with an online course could meet the requirement, could the Health Services team please research, compare, evaluate, and recommend courses which combine an affordable (preferably free) package of training that meets the standards cited in the excerpt below. ....
I previously wrote:In my post suggesting Emergency Medical Responder certification I did not discuss cost like the OP requested. Browsing the web, EMR courses range seems to be about $300 and up, BUT this course can be taught by an EMT-B and many units have one of these. I'm researching what additional training, if any, an EMT-B needs to be an instructor.Alternatively, a CAP group, for example, could pay for a member's training as an ARC First Aid/ CPR instructor. Then I think that member could give classes for any price including free (text must be purchased).I've done some research on the training that an EMT-B or other medical professional like RN, OD. or MD)needs to have to instruct an Emergency Medical Responder course.My advice would be to contact your state's Office of Emergency Management or similar agency that oversees EMR training. Some states only require that the EMT_B have two years experience. Other states require a series of activities *eg: audit EMT course, help teach and EMR course, teach the EMR courses under supervision. Only your state agency can tell you what training is required to be an EMR institutor (in addition to EMT-B) in YOUR state.
Quote from: RNOfficer on September 23, 2016, 01:10:04 AMI previously wrote:In my post suggesting Emergency Medical Responder certification I did not discuss cost like the OP requested. Browsing the web, EMR courses range seems to be about $300 and up, BUT this course can be taught by an EMT-B and many units have one of these. I'm researching what additional training, if any, an EMT-B needs to be an instructor.Alternatively, a CAP group, for example, could pay for a member's training as an ARC First Aid/ CPR instructor. Then I think that member could give classes for any price including free (text must be purchased).I've done some research on the training that an EMT-B or other medical professional like RN, OD. or MD)needs to have to instruct an Emergency Medical Responder course.My advice would be to contact your state's Office of Emergency Management or similar agency that oversees EMR training. Some states only require that the EMT_B have two years experience. Other states require a series of activities *eg: audit EMT course, help teach and EMR course, teach the EMR courses under supervision. Only your state agency can tell you what training is required to be an EMR institutor (in addition to EMT-B) in YOUR state.So as an example, me in WA state with a CPR card, what benefit would the EMR course net me? What further things could I do? Are there things I would be obligated to do?
1-6. Medical Care Policy.a. CAP is not a health care provider, and CAP members are not permitted to act in the role of health care providers during the performance of official CAP duties. Consequently, CAP members are not permitted to function as pharmacists, physicians, nurses, or in any other role that would permit the administration and dispensing of drugs under various federal and state laws and regulations.b. Medical care within CAP is limited to emergency first aid and may be provided only by members with appropriate training and experience. Such care shall continue only until professional medical care can be obtained.c. Any member can assist another member in distress in order to save the life of the member. Members are encouraged to inform activity leadership, health service officers, those in direct contact with the member of their condition, and critical information for support that may be needed. Should any CAP member be required by law to render aid by virtue of his or her professional credential or state license (such as a paramedic or emergency medical technician, for example), such CAP member in complying with his or her legal obligations shall be deemed to be doing so either as the agent of his or her employer or as an agent of the state agency that issued his or her license, but in no event as the agent of CAP.d. CAP members providing emergency first aid will inform first responders, like emergency medical services, what they have done so that further care is not hindered. All occurrences must be documented in accordance with CAPR 62-2, Mishap Reporting and Review.
ETA: bold/italics/et al don't show up on Tapatalk, but I believe we are still on the same wavelength. 1st Lt Raduenz
Wait/wot?I was the OP for the First Aid subtopic, within this Health Information thread (if I have your terms right). ALL I WAS AFTER, was to channel the energy of the chowder and marching society away from political debates and... unusual... health topics, towards providing a useful menu of options for local units to choose from to meet the quote, "First Aid", unquote, training requirement for the Ground Team 3 SQTR signoff. I provided the reg requirement.There have been a couple of good point solutions so far, and then it seems to have veered off into debates about legalities. I'd like to suggest that we stick to providing concrete training course options of use to local Commanders. If people want to debate levels of care, how about a new thread?FIRST AID COURSES ONLY - PER THE REGS - PER THAT STANDARD LISTED (ONLY!)Thanks, y'all.V/RSpam