Get those Senior members out of the Corportae uniform and into the USAF style

Started by RNOfficer, June 16, 2016, 09:47:58 PM

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RNOfficer

Quote from: SarDragon on June 16, 2016, 09:59:30 PM
Sadly, that won't help me. I'm barbate, not overweight. It's a choice I made many years ago, and an opportunity to wear the AF-style uniform is not a big enough inducement to alter my current appearance, nor would it for many other members.

US Coat Guard Auxiliary has no beard restriction, nor  do they have a high/ weight requirement for wearing the CG uniform.

This is odd because the USCG Auxiliary is far more integrated into the CG than the CAP is into the CAP.  Auxies actually serve on USCG ships and boats.

RNOfficer

Quote from: RNOfficer on June 16, 2016, 09:47:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC6FkP5JZVk

Clinical trials showed patient lost an average of 46 pounds during the first year and another few pounds to make 50 pounds of weight loss by the second year.

If losing weight was as easy as some posters here claim, then probably there wouldn't be so many photos of overweight CAP officers on the web.

SarDragon

Having the desire, motivation, and dedication to lose weight is half the battle. Those are the big hurdles for many people.
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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: SarDragon on June 18, 2016, 04:27:47 AM
Having the desire, motivation, and dedication to lose weight is half the battle. Those are the big hurdles for many people.

Losing weight is simple, not easy.

foo

Quote from: Капитан Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 06:01:39 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on June 18, 2016, 04:27:47 AM
Having the desire, motivation, and dedication to lose weight is half the battle. Those are the big hurdles for many people.

Losing weight is simple, not easy.

With regard to CAP weight standards, complying with uniform regulations is simple and easy.

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: neummy on June 18, 2016, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: Капитан Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 06:01:39 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on June 18, 2016, 04:27:47 AM
Having the desire, motivation, and dedication to lose weight is half the battle. Those are the big hurdles for many people.

Losing weight is simple, not easy.

With regard to CAP weight standards, complying with uniform regulations is simple and easy.

Not according to my experience.

foo

Quote from: Капитан Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: neummy on June 18, 2016, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: Капитан Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 06:01:39 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on June 18, 2016, 04:27:47 AM
Having the desire, motivation, and dedication to lose weight is half the battle. Those are the big hurdles for many people.

Losing weight is simple, not easy.

With regard to CAP weight standards, complying with uniform regulations is simple and easy.

Not according to my experience.

That truly is unfortunate. It should just be a matter of checking the H&W chart and acquiring the permitted uniform(s), which in my case are the corporates. Simple. Easy.

Now if you meant that it's not easy to lose weight, then I'm with you there! But I'm perfectly content in the corporates and would wear them even if I weren't so fat.

THRAWN

It is as easy as looking at the chart. Too bad more colonels dont do that....
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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: neummy on June 18, 2016, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: Капитан Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: neummy on June 18, 2016, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: Капитан Хаткевич on June 18, 2016, 06:01:39 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on June 18, 2016, 04:27:47 AM
Having the desire, motivation, and dedication to lose weight is half the battle. Those are the big hurdles for many people.

Losing weight is simple, not easy.

With regard to CAP weight standards, complying with uniform regulations is simple and easy.

Not according to my experience.

That truly is unfortunate. It should just be a matter of checking the H&W chart and acquiring the permitted uniform(s), which in my case are the corporates. Simple. Easy.

Now if you meant that it's not easy to lose weight, then I'm with you there! But I'm perfectly content in the corporates and would wear them even if I weren't so fat.

It is a simple matter. Too many choose to ignore it.

foo

Quote from: THRAWN on June 18, 2016, 06:08:31 PM
It is as easy as looking at the chart. Too bad more colonels dont do that....

The ones I know do set the right example.

RNOfficer

Quote from: winterg on June 17, 2016, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: Pace on June 17, 2016, 01:08:09 PM
Not the same thing. Water doesn't increase leptin (satiety hormone) levels and induce a sense of fullness.
Interesting. My Doctor told me to drink water before meals. And a quick Web search turns up numerous studies that say it is beneficial. But I guess like any medical finding, give it a minute and they will do a 180!

http://www.m.webmd.com/diet/news/20150828/water-weight-meals-obesity

Transmitted via my R5 astromech.

The evidence that water is an appetite suppressant is not well-established or accepted. Pity, if it worked it would certainly solve lots of problems.

In addition, as a health professional I would caution strongly against using most websites, including WebMD, as sources of medical information. If you wish to use the web, only use trusted, non-commercial, sources such as:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/patient-care-and-health-information

http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health

http://www.cdc.gov/


etodd

When I saw the title of this thread, I didn't think it was going to be about weight loss. I figured it was going to be about folks like me who just 'prefer' the corporate uniform.

So I'll move onto other threads now. Carry on .....
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Breathe in, breathe out, move on ..."

Spaceman3750

We should probably figure out how to spell "corporate" before offering medical advice. Just saying...

RNOfficer

Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 19, 2016, 04:10:42 AM
We should probably figure out how to spell "corporate" before offering medical advice. Just saying...

Thanks for your helpful comment. I do know how to spell "corporate". Sometimes my fingers hit the wrong keys. I'm sure you never do that.

Garibaldi

...aaand here we go again. I've stopped jumping on people for crap like this, and I thought we all were trying to be more civilized.

Guess I expected too much.
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Spaceman3750

Quote from: RNOfficer on June 19, 2016, 11:34:39 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 19, 2016, 04:10:42 AM
We should probably figure out how to spell "corporate" before offering medical advice. Just saying...

Thanks for your helpful comment. I do know how to spell "corporate". Sometimes my fingers hit the wrong keys. I'm sure you never do that.

Sorry, my bad, I probably shouldn't have posted that.

THRAWN

Quote from: RNOfficer on June 19, 2016, 01:41:28 AM
Quote from: winterg on June 17, 2016, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: Pace on June 17, 2016, 01:08:09 PM
Not the same thing. Water doesn't increase leptin (satiety hormone) levels and induce a sense of fullness.
Interesting. My Doctor told me to drink water before meals. And a quick Web search turns up numerous studies that say it is beneficial. But I guess like any medical finding, give it a minute and they will do a 180!

http://www.m.webmd.com/diet/news/20150828/water-weight-meals-obesity

Transmitted via my R5 astromech.

The evidence that water is an appetite suppressant is not well-established or accepted. Pity, if it worked it would certainly solve lots of problems.

In addition, as a health professional I would caution strongly against using most websites, including WebMD, as sources of medical information. If you wish to use the web, only use trusted, non-commercial, sources such as:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/patient-care-and-health-information

http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health

http://www.cdc.gov/

You forgot CAPTalk in that list....
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winterg

Quote from: RNOfficer on June 19, 2016, 01:41:28 AM
Quote from: winterg on June 17, 2016, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: Pace on June 17, 2016, 01:08:09 PM
Not the same thing. Water doesn't increase leptin (satiety hormone) levels and induce a sense of fullness.
Interesting. My Doctor told me to drink water before meals. And a quick Web search turns up numerous studies that say it is beneficial. But I guess like any medical finding, give it a minute and they will do a 180!
http://www.m.webmd.com/diet/news/20150828/water-weight-meals-obesity
Transmitted via my R5 astromech.
The evidence that water is an appetite suppressant is not well-established or accepted. Pity, if it worked it would certainly solve lots of problems.
In addition, as a health professional I would caution strongly against using most websites, including WebMD, as sources of medical information. If you wish to use the web, only use trusted, non-commercial, sources such as:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/patient-care-and-health-information
http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health
http://www.cdc.gov/

I only linked the WebMB article as an example of the point I was making because it was the first result.  I don't actually use the internet for my medical advice.  But whether it is well accepted or not, doctors have been giving this advice for a long time.  And as for getting medical related information from the web, I have no intention of getting any medical related information from any site with a .gov at the end!  :o

RNOfficer

Quote from: winterg on June 20, 2016, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: RNOfficer on June 19, 2016, 01:41:28 AM
Quote from: winterg on June 17, 2016, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: Pace on June 17, 2016, 01:08:09 PM
Not the same thing. Water doesn't increase leptin (satiety hormone) levels and induce a sense of fullness.
Interesting. My Doctor told me to drink water before meals. And a quick Web search turns up numerous studies that say it is beneficial. But I guess like any medical finding, give it a minute and they will do a 180!
http://www.m.webmd.com/diet/news/20150828/water-weight-meals-obesity
Transmitted via my R5 astromech.
The evidence that water is an appetite suppressant is not well-established or accepted. Pity, if it worked it would certainly solve lots of problems.
In addition, as a health professional I would caution strongly against using most websites, including WebMD, as sources of medical information. If you wish to use the web, only use trusted, non-commercial, sources such as:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/patient-care-and-health-information
http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health
http://www.cdc.gov/

I only linked the WebMB article as an example of the point I was making because it was the first result.  I don't actually use the internet for my medical advice.  But whether it is well accepted or not, doctors have been giving this advice for a long time.  And as for getting medical related information from the web, I have no intention of getting any medical related information from any site with a .gov at the end!  :o

You say: " But whether it is well accepted or not, doctors have been giving this advice for a long time."

Modern health professionals like me practice "evidence-based" medicine..

http://med.fsu.edu/index.cfm?page=medicalinformatics.ebmTutorial

Consequently, that the advice to drink water to reduce appetite has been given for many years is not important. Evidence-based medicine has shown that much advice and practices in medicine just do not work- -even though it seems that they should.

An example I often use to illustrate this is Glucosamine/chondroitin for arthritis, a nutritional supplement. Early studies were supportive, the mechanism through which it would work was reasonable, it works on other animals (I give Glucosamine/chondroitin to my dogs), and patients reported a high level of satisfaction. Unfortunately, when a large, well-designed study was cp,pleted, the results showed Glucosamine/chondroitin worked no better than a placebo.

https://nccih.nih.gov/research/results/gait/qa.htm

Note that this wasn't snake-oil. We all hoped and believed that Glucosamine/chondroitin would work. But it does not.

Of course, being a "nutritional supplement" rather than a drug, Glucosamine/chondroitin is still available because it is exempt from FDA regulation. Lots of people take it and claim it provides relief. However, it is expensive for a placebo, so those practicing EBM can not recommend  it.

Water however is cheap or free and does no harm so if you wants to drink water to control weight, drink up! If you want to think it brings positive results, it's a free country.

BTW, over fifty years ago, when I wrestled in high school and struggled to "make weight", the coach told me to drink water "as hot as I could stand" before meals and that would prevent weight gain. Of course, for us the coach was an oracle.







RNOfficer

Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 20, 2016, 04:04:15 AM
Quote from: RNOfficer on June 19, 2016, 11:34:39 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 19, 2016, 04:10:42 AM
We should probably figure out how to spell "corporate" before offering medical advice. Just saying...

Thanks for your helpful comment. I do know how to spell "corporate". Sometimes my fingers hit the wrong keys. I'm sure you never do that.

Sorry, my bad, I probably shouldn't have posted that.

No worries. I should not have been sarcastic in my response.