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Started by MajorSER, May 10, 2007, 08:05:43 PM

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MajorSER

There is a brand new CAPF-35 for Chaplains.  MLOs now have their own CAPF-35A.

There is also a brand new CAPR 265-1  Chaplains Service Manual.

SUMMARY OF CHANGES.
The Moral Leadership Officer appointing procedures have been changed to follow the same steps as the chaplain appointment procedures. The Chaplain Service Assistant is now the Chaplain Service Program Manager and is part of the NHQ Missions Directorate.
Lt. Col. David Crockwell MLO
FC 07-09-08
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
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JC004

#1
Thanks, Admiral.  :)

Adding a link to the pubs page for easier access:  LINKY

OH!  Grammar error on the Chaplain application!  It says "Chaplain's" when it should say "Chaplains"............

Capt Rivera

Quote from: MajorSER on May 10, 2007, 08:05:43 PM
There is a brand new CAPF-35 for Chaplains.  MLOs now have their own CAPF-35A.

There is also a brand new CAPR 265-1  Chaplains Service Manual.

SUMMARY OF CHANGES.
The Moral Leadership Officer appointing procedures have been changed to follow the same steps as the chaplain appointment procedures. The Chaplain Service Assistant is now the Chaplain Service Program Manager and is part of the NHQ Missions Directorate.

Thx for the heads up I'll get word out to my wing....
//Signed//

Joshua Rivera, Capt, CAP
Squadron Commander
Grand Forks Composite Squadron
North Dakota Wing, Civil Air Patrol
http://www.grandforkscap.org

Capt Rivera

Quote from: MajorSER on May 10, 2007, 08:05:43 PM
There is a brand new CAPF-35 for Chaplains.  MLOs now have their own CAPF-35A.

There is also a brand new CAPR 265-1  Chaplains Service Manual.

SUMMARY OF CHANGES.
The Moral Leadership Officer appointing procedures have been changed to follow the same steps as the chaplain appointment procedures. The Chaplain Service Assistant is now the Chaplain Service Program Manager and is part of the NHQ Missions Directorate.

hmmm Found R265-1... dont see F35 or F35A ...
//Signed//

Joshua Rivera, Capt, CAP
Squadron Commander
Grand Forks Composite Squadron
North Dakota Wing, Civil Air Patrol
http://www.grandforkscap.org

JC004

Quote from: riveraj on May 11, 2007, 02:46:27 AM
Quote from: MajorSER on May 10, 2007, 08:05:43 PM
There is a brand new CAPF-35 for Chaplains.  MLOs now have their own CAPF-35A.

There is also a brand new CAPR 265-1  Chaplains Service Manual.

SUMMARY OF CHANGES.
The Moral Leadership Officer appointing procedures have been changed to follow the same steps as the chaplain appointment procedures. The Chaplain Service Assistant is now the Chaplain Service Program Manager and is part of the NHQ Missions Directorate.

hmmm Found R265-1... dont see F35 or F35A ...

See the Pubs Bulletin page.

Capt Rivera

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See the Pubs Bulletin page.

Thanks
//Signed//

Joshua Rivera, Capt, CAP
Squadron Commander
Grand Forks Composite Squadron
North Dakota Wing, Civil Air Patrol
http://www.grandforkscap.org

CAPChap

These changes in CAPR 265-1 are a significant move foward. The nebulous "60 hours of training post-high school graduation" has been clarified to be college-level training from an institution listed in the Higher Education Directory

While this change may appear to be an impediment to appointment for some, it will ensure that the Chaplain Service maintains a high level of professionalism in both its Chaplains and its Moral Leadership Officers.

Now....if we can only help unit commanders understand that it is the Chaplain Service office at NHQ who appoints Chaplains and MLOs....

SARMedTech

Quote from: JC004 on May 10, 2007, 08:12:35 PM
Thanks, Admiral.  :)

Adding a link to the pubs page for easier access:  LINKY

OH!  Grammar error on the Chaplain application!  It says "Chaplain's" when it should say "Chaplains"............

Actually shouldnt it read "Chaplains' " as in belonging to more than one Chaplain?
"Corpsman Up!"

"...The distinct possibility of dying slow, cold and alone...but you also get the chance to save lives, and there is no greater calling in the world than that."

JC004

Quote from: SARMedTech on June 02, 2007, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: JC004 on May 10, 2007, 08:12:35 PM
Thanks, Admiral.  :)

Adding a link to the pubs page for easier access:  LINKY

OH!  Grammar error on the Chaplain application!  It says "Chaplain's" when it should say "Chaplains"............

Actually shouldnt it read "Chaplains' " as in belonging to more than one Chaplain?

It saaaaays..."Name of Person Who Endorses Chaplain's For Your Group"  Die, apostrophe, die!!!

SARMedTech

Quote from: JC004 on June 03, 2007, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: SARMedTech on June 02, 2007, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: JC004 on May 10, 2007, 08:12:35 PM
Thanks, Admiral.  :)

Adding a link to the pubs page for easier access:  LINKY

OH!  Grammar error on the Chaplain application!  It says "Chaplain's" when it should say "Chaplains"............

Actually shouldnt it read "Chaplains' " as in belonging to more than one Chaplain?

It saaaaays..."Name of Person Who Endorses Chaplain's For Your Group"  Die, apostrophe, die!!!

The apostrophe doesn't need to be in the plural for chaplain.  Sorry, couldn't resist. >:D
"Corpsman Up!"

"...The distinct possibility of dying slow, cold and alone...but you also get the chance to save lives, and there is no greater calling in the world than that."

JC004

Quote from: SARMedTech on June 03, 2007, 10:43:11 PM
Quote from: JC004 on June 03, 2007, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: SARMedTech on June 02, 2007, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: JC004 on May 10, 2007, 08:12:35 PM
Thanks, Admiral.  :)

Adding a link to the pubs page for easier access:  LINKY

OH!  Grammar error on the Chaplain application!  It says "Chaplain's" when it should say "Chaplains"............

Actually shouldnt it read "Chaplains' " as in belonging to more than one Chaplain?

It saaaaays..."Name of Person Who Endorses Chaplain's For Your Group"  Die, apostrophe, die!!!

The apostrophe doesn't need to be in the plural for chaplain.  Sorry, couldn't resist. >:D

We aren't nearly brutal enough to NHQ.

Dad2-4

For any chaplains out there:
I've been involved in CAP in various roles, mostly Aerospace Ed. and Cadet programs, since 2000. I'm currently living in Asia but we'll likely return to the USA the end of 2010.
A few years ago I considered applying for the chaplaincy service within CAP but never carried through with it. Now I'm considering it again. I've been an ordained minister since 1982.
I guess what I'm asking is for your experiences as a chaplain within CAP. What are the benefits of being a chaplain with this organization. I'm not looking for generalities of being a minister, but particularly within CAP.
Thanks for your input.

Chappie

Quote from: Dad2-4 on August 22, 2009, 12:47:15 PM
For any chaplains out there:
I've been involved in CAP in various roles, mostly Aerospace Ed. and Cadet programs, since 2000. I'm currently living in Asia but we'll likely return to the USA the end of 2010.
A few years ago I considered applying for the chaplaincy service within CAP but never carried through with it. Now I'm considering it again. I've been an ordained minister since 1982.
I guess what I'm asking is for your experiences as a chaplain within CAP. What are the benefits of being a chaplain with this organization. I'm not looking for generalities of being a minister, but particularly within CAP.
Thanks for your input.

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Airrace

Thanks for the information!

dogboy

Quote from: MajorSER on May 10, 2007, 08:05:43 PM
There is a brand new CAPF-35 for Chaplains.  MLOs now have their own CAPF-35A.


CAPF-35 states:

EDUCATION: Have an accredited undergraduate degree. Also, an accredited seminary degree, or equivalent, is preferred, however, a waiver may be granted to an applicant with at least 5 years of full time clergy experience.

Is the requirement for an accredited undergraduate degree new? I've known lots of chaplains in the CAP and very few attended an accredited college (and almost none a real seminary).

Almost all I know entered with the above waiver, having been ordained by a denomination with little or no educational requirements.

Dad2-4

As far as I know it's not new, but I don't know if maybe the undergrad degree can also be waived.
I have a BA but no seminary because my religion doesn't require it for ordination.

Chappie

Quote from: dogboy on August 23, 2009, 12:04:05 AM
Quote from: MajorSER on May 10, 2007, 08:05:43 PM
There is a brand new CAPF-35 for Chaplains.  MLOs now have their own CAPF-35A.


CAPF-35 states:

EDUCATION: Have an accredited undergraduate degree. Also, an accredited seminary degree, or equivalent, is preferred, however, a waiver may be granted to an applicant with at least 5 years of full time clergy experience.

Is the requirement for an accredited undergraduate degree new? I've known lots of chaplains in the CAP and very few attended an accredited college (and almost none a real seminary).

Almost all I know entered with the above waiver, having been ordained by a denomination with little or no educational requirements.

No, that is not new....the accredited undergraduate degree has always been a requirement.  The waiver is granted based on the number of years of pastoral experience with the accredited bachelors.  The  grade appointment of a waivered chaplain is 1st Lt. 
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dogboy

Quote from: Chappie on August 23, 2009, 04:22:58 PM

No, that is not new....the accredited undergraduate degree has always been a requirement.  The waiver is granted based on the number of years of pastoral experience with the accredited bachelors.  The  grade appointment of a waivered chaplain is 1st Lt.

I'm very surprised at this. I personally know at least three CAP chaplains that never graduated from an accredited college.

Chappie

Quote from: dogboy on August 23, 2009, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: Chappie on August 23, 2009, 04:22:58 PM

No, that is not new....the accredited undergraduate degree has always been a requirement.  The waiver is granted based on the number of years of pastoral experience with the accredited bachelors.  The  grade appointment of a waivered chaplain is 1st Lt.

I'm very surprised at this. I personally know at least three CAP chaplains that never graduated from an accredited college.

Likewise, I am surprised by your experience because I have been a CAP Chaplain since '96 -- serving at all levels of CAP -- and do not know of a single chaplain who has been appointed without an accredited Bachelors degree.
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dogboy

#19
I would be happy to send you the resume of a chaplain who joined in 1998 and has no accredited degrees at all, although he claims three doctorates

Since the resume is posted on the web, I believe this is information that can be shared.

He's been a Wing and Regional Chaplain in fact.