Air Force Dress Blue shirt collar

[Full time cadet]

Does anyone know how to not wrinkle the soft cheap collar while wearing a tie? No matter how much I starch it it will always wrinkle.

[lordmonar]

Probably your shirt is too small.

[Grumpy]

Try the spring metal collar stay.  I believe we used to call it a "spiffy".

[a2capt]

The old school, works pretty darn good, variety, but some people find it "complicated"..






The new fangled, it works pretty good for what it is, and is less hassle between uses.





http://www.vanguardmil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=59

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I'm not encouraging this at all, but it reminds me of what my dad told me about when he was in the Army.

He absolutely hated wearing a tie.  He did not wear one when he was my best man at my wedding and stipulated in his will that he was not to be buried in one.

He told me that when he was in the Army, on the occasions he had to wear a tie (obviously not a clip-on), he fudged a way to keep his top button unbuttoned but to pull his tie just tight enough that it looked like it was buttoned.  He said, "not even the First Sergeant noticed."

I am one of those who is all thumbs when it comes to tying a four-in-hand tie, so I usually just wear a clip-on, but sometimes I wonder if the collar on my uniform shirt wouldn't look better if I wore a properly-tied old-school tie (with my top button buttoned!).

[Full time cadet]

Sorry not talking about the whole collar I'm talking about the neck part of the collar because when you wear a tie, theirs an unusual wrinkle around the top neck part of the collar. I'm talking about the dress blues shirt btw.

[Full time cadet]

If the Air Force made the shirts stiff collar that would be great.

[lordmonar]

Sorry not talking about the whole collar I'm talking about the neck part of the collar because when you wear a tie, theirs an unusual wrinkle around the top neck part of the collar. I'm talking about the dress blues shirt btw.

Your shirt is the wrong size.

If the shirt neck size is right....there should not be any weird wrinkles.

[Full time cadet]

my shirt is not..... I can fit 2 fingers in my neck spacing

[Eclipse]

Sounds like it is too big.

[abdsp51]

Maybe the tie is too tight.  I can fit two fingers into the spacing with mine and I don't get a wrinkle.  PLus I don't heavily starch my collar either.

[vento]

^^ What adbsp51 said. Try loosening your tie to the same circumference as the collar. You collar will not be wrinkled and the tie should not be hanging down showing the first button.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Question: What is the general preference of those posting here: old-style or clip-on?

[MSG Mac]

Question: What is the general preference of those posting here: old-style or clip-on?

Real men use real ties

[MSG Mac]

Question: What is the general preference of those posting here: old-style or clip-on?

Old style, clip-ons are irritating

[Garibaldi]

How did we learn? Mostly by watching our dads or grandfathers tie theirs. Nowadays, with the proliferation of dressing up as being optional in the workplace and church, dads don't teach this skill. It's a dying art.

[Eclipse]

Adults should not wear clip on ties if they want to be taken seriously (police officers and similar safety-related occupations being the exception).

[Майор Хаткевич]

Question: What is the general preference of those posting here: old-style or clip-on?

Real men use real ties

Where do I turn in my man card and report for gender reassignment then?


I hear in Texas, real mean also slug men wearing pink.


A Brave World we live in.

[AlphaSigOU]

Be aware that the short-sleeve blue shirt is a 'convertible' collar - it can be worn with or without a tie.The long-sleeve blue shirt must be worn with a tie.

Uniform shirts are made straight off the rack - unlike the Army and the Navy/Marines, the Air Force is not very big on custom-tailored (or to use the 'veddy British' term, 'bespoke') uniforms.

[Shuman 14]

Adults should not wear clip on ties if they want to be taken seriously (police officers and similar safety-related occupations being the exception).

I was just going to say that. A properly tied full Windsor Knot looks the best... until a perp grabs your tie.