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raivo
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« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2014, 12:30:17 AM »

I reported it as abuse, because a professional organization turning to third party marketing companies to try and make a buck off its members is pretty [darn] abusive if you ask me.
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« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2014, 02:53:00 AM »

I reported it as abuse, because a professional organization turning to third party marketing companies to try and make a buck off its members is pretty [darn] abusive if you ask me.

Obviously the powers that be don't think so
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« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2014, 05:43:13 PM »

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« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2014, 12:42:28 AM »

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Cash and Plastic
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« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2014, 01:02:19 AM »

Commanders Always Pay.
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« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2014, 12:49:30 PM »

Quote
The Wing Leadership continues to host one of the nations most expensive cadet Encampments, that frankly provides nothing more than a place for Cadets to march around at for a week.  Where there are Air Force installations, the Wing continues to use facilities that are owned by the Army National Guard, and who charge such terribly high rates for everything
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Not to derail, but which Air Force installations? There are no active air force bases in pa, the only "Installations" are small air guard or air reserve stations.  These typically do not have the space/availability to support encampment size activities.  Also one is at the far western side of the state.

Sorry....just wondering
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« Reply #86 on: September 12, 2014, 12:55:27 PM »

Commanders Always Pay.

Followed shortly by Commanders Are Poor.  >:D
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« Reply #87 on: September 12, 2014, 01:18:12 PM »

Possible reasoning:  my last full time job was in full swing to raise funds to build a new ambulance building (large scale).  They basically did the same thing, beg donations from the employees (called the 15 min club- you donated 15 min of your pay a week to the building fund, and got a yet to be seen brick with your name on it on some decorative walkway).  They had a professional fundraiser er marketing director at the time.  I asked her once why:  she said most large donors (major corporations and foundations)  ask what kind of internal fund raising you are attempting as well before they open up their wallet.  (she also said they don't really care how successful it is, only that you are trying something)

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« Reply #88 on: September 14, 2014, 09:02:32 PM »

In related news, I got an e-mail from the COWG/CC last night, which included a link where I could find out about the "impossible (but real) technology that could make you impossibly rich."

This is getting ridiculous - I'm supposed to be a member of a professional organization, not a marketing target.
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« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2014, 09:17:25 PM »

In related news, I got an e-mail from the COWG/CC last night, which included a link where I could find out about the "impossible (but real) technology that could make you impossibly rich."

This is getting ridiculous - I'm supposed to be a member of a professional organization, not a marketing target.
Your signature says you are a Capt in the USAF......need I say more then CFC, AFAF, Top Three, Unit Booser Cllub, CGO, Cheif's Council.   

If the COWG/CC is using the CAP mail list to further his personal buisness.....that's a no-no...if his e-mail got hacked and it slipped your spam filter.....that happens.....I get hundrends of those sort of things from people I know....heck I get BS like that on my military computer at work.

As for CAP asking for more money.....it is voluntary....just ignore and no harm done.
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« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2014, 09:44:48 PM »

In related news, I got an e-mail from the COWG/CC last night, which included a link where I could find out about the "impossible (but real) technology that could make you impossibly rich."

This is getting ridiculous - I'm supposed to be a member of a professional organization, not a marketing target.
The COWG/CC is using a commercial free email account. Every one of these tags every email with some kind of ad.
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« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2014, 09:47:39 PM »

It was mentioned that the development guy need to show that members support the organization. The problem is he is going about it wrong. He should ask members for estimates of their annual CAP spending, excluding dues and personal uniforms/accessories. That would provide, IMHO, a large enough number to show significant financial buy-in of the members.
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« Reply #92 on: September 15, 2014, 12:38:26 AM »

In related news, I got an e-mail from the COWG/CC last night, which included a link where I could find out about the "impossible (but real) technology that could make you impossibly rich."

This is getting ridiculous - I'm supposed to be a member of a professional organization, not a marketing target.
The COWG/CC is using a commercial free email account. Every one of these tags every email with some kind of ad.

Nothing shouts "professional" louder then a Cialis ad in an official email from someone with an eagle.

#2 are meaningless privacy disclaimers.
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« Reply #93 on: September 15, 2014, 02:22:10 AM »


In related news, I got an e-mail from the COWG/CC last night, which included a link where I could find out about the "impossible (but real) technology that could make you impossibly rich."

This is getting ridiculous - I'm supposed to be a member of a professional organization, not a marketing target.
The COWG/CC is using a commercial free email account. Every one of these tags every email with some kind of ad.

Nothing shouts "professional" louder then a Cialis ad in an official email from someone with an eagle.

#2 are meaningless privacy disclaimers.

I ran into a public wing website once that had a FOUO and "protected from interception" notice at the bottom of their pages. I should have sent them the bill for the keyboard.
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« Reply #94 on: September 15, 2014, 01:22:41 PM »

In related news, I got an e-mail from the COWG/CC last night, which included a link where I could find out about the "impossible (but real) technology that could make you impossibly rich."

This is getting ridiculous - I'm supposed to be a member of a professional organization, not a marketing target.
The COWG/CC is using a commercial free email account. Every one of these tags every email with some kind of ad.

That's why I like Google Apps for Nonprofits.  No ads.
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« Reply #95 on: October 26, 2014, 10:41:22 PM »

In related news, I got an e-mail from the COWG/CC last night, which included a link where I could find out about the "impossible (but real) technology that could make you impossibly rich."

This is getting ridiculous - I'm supposed to be a member of a professional organization, not a marketing target.
The COWG/CC is using a commercial free email account. Every one of these tags every email with some kind of ad.



Nothing shouts "professional" louder then a Cialis ad in an official email from someone with an eagle.

#2 are meaningless privacy disclaimers.
Considering the average age of CAP pilots, those ads are probably very successful reaching their target audience >:D
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"And then the Lord spake, saying: "First, shalt thou take out the holy pin. Then shalt thou count to three. No more, no less. "Three" shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. "Four" shalt thou not count, and neither count thou two, execpting that thou then goest on to three. Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade to-wards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuffit. Amen."

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Eclipse
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« Reply #96 on: October 27, 2014, 12:16:48 AM »

^ For a number of reasons, CAP members seem to be a prime demographic for spammers and other malware, adware,
and con artists.

To those scoring at home...

No, it wasn't "worth a shot to resend this message even though you knew it was probably a scam"

No we do not care about some kid in Elbonia who wants to receive a record number of post cards.

No, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, Twitter, or any other major company will send you $###.## if you resend / tweet / InstaVine
this message, nor are they shutting down or going to start charging for their free services.

We also don't care when the cousin of the Mailman of the coworker of the sister-in-law of someone who hasn't been
a member for 20 years goes in for lapband surgery, or the Assistant Director of Looking Out the Window's goldfish has dysentery.

Etc., Etc.
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