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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2013, 10:18:46 PM »

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« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2013, 08:39:24 AM »

Just to throw this out there... I've not seen what a NYPD Auxiliary Officer's uniform looks like but if it is the same as the NYPD with a different badge/shield, with a rocker that reads "Auxiliary" above/below a NYPD patch or the word "Auxiliary" inserted in the NYPD patch... does the criminal element really take time to read it?

If they don't (and I know they don't), being out there "patrolling" without being armed, their title shouldn't be Auxiliary Officer... it should be TARGET.

Not knocking auxiliary or reserve police officers, I've been one in the past and understand most are doing it to gain experience and training to get full-time job in law enforcement, but for NYPD to put them out there... like that... is at best a waste of able and willing manpower and at worst a funeral waiting to happen.

As to the young lad in the story, he needs to grow up and the NYPD needs to pull his creds now.
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« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2013, 01:28:20 PM »

Here is a Wikipedia link to the NYPD Auxiliary. The patch shown goes on the left shoulder. The patch without the words "Auxiliary" is used by the regular police. The same patch with the words "Transit" is used by Transit Police or the words I believe "School Safety" is used by the School Safety Agents assigned to public schools in the city. All three services - Auxies, Transit, and School Safety - are unarmed. But police tow truck drivers carry a sidearm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department_Auxiliary_Police

Even if sounding callous, that is their job. Target! In 2007 two Auxiliaries were killed in the line of duty as they decided to follow an armed bank robber to report on his surroundings. They followed him about two blocks or so behind, one on each side of the street. The robber saw them, reversed track, and shot the Auxiliaries. At the time the NYPD policy was not to issue bullet proof vests to the Auxies. FDNY (Fire Department) had started issuing bullet proof vests a few months before to their EMS personnel. Since that event, NYPD I have heard or read issues bullet proof vests to the Auxies.

Sometimes I have walked past them and not reflected on whether they are Auxies or not despite their not wearing firearms. Unless I happen to look at their badges, which is different in shape.

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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2013, 12:37:38 AM »

 ??? Where do you get your information? First off, New York City Transit Police has been merged with the NYPD since 1995. They were never unarmed and where full fledged Police Officers with statewide arrest powers. The only reminiscence of the transit police is the transit bureau of the NYPD. Armed tow truck drivers? :o Do you make this [Filter Subversion] up? Auxiliaries are not police officers nor are they peace officers. School Safety Agents are unarmed peace officers who get there ON DUTY STATUS ONLY through being deputized as a special patrolman. Auxiliaries and safety agents barley have affiliation with the nypd other than the patch they wear. Seriously, tell me where you get your information from.
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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2013, 01:24:54 AM »

Tell us why you think we actually care about something that is 100% irrelevant to CAP except as an anecdotal
"don't be a goof" example.
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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2013, 11:54:20 AM »

If you are asking me, from their websites. Tell me where I state that Transit Police are not part of the NYPD. I drove and dispatched ambulances for a volunteer ambulance corps  and interacted with  members who were also FDNY EMTs. The article about the Aux PD from the Wikipedia. As to NYPD tow truck drivers, I see them every day when they get off their trucks that say NYPD. All sport a sidearm.

And Eclipse, it is for our friend who posted a message regarding those Aux PD.

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« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2013, 06:47:38 PM »

??? Where do you get your information? First off, New York City Transit Police has been merged with the NYPD since 1995. They were never unarmed and where full fledged Police Officers with statewide arrest powers. The only reminiscence of the transit police is the transit bureau of the NYPD. Armed tow truck drivers? :o Do you make this [Filter Subversion] up? Auxiliaries are not police officers nor are they peace officers. School Safety Agents are unarmed peace officers who get there ON DUTY STATUS ONLY through being deputized as a special patrolman. Auxiliaries and safety agents barley have affiliation with the nypd other than the patch they wear. Seriously, tell me where you get your information from.

A word of advice: constantly attacking people is a great way to get banned. Just a friendly warning.
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« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2013, 05:33:11 AM »

.... Auxiliaries and safety agents barley have affiliation with the nypd other than the patch they wear. Seriously, tell me where you get your information from.

Joe Q public usually is no where near that observant (or cares) there is a guy, he has a uniform that looks like a cop, and they see NYPD, they dont read/see far enough to see the word "Auxiliary" or "Safety Agent".  To them they are the NYPD.  Perception is reality.  Just search the topics here about how people mistake CAP members for USAF or the Army.  It doesnt even say US Air Force or US Army anywhere on the field uniform; its camo its the army......

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« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2013, 02:13:22 PM »

I was issued two badges when I got certified after graduating from the IDOC Academy. At, that time they were issued by the institution and the badge number reflected seniority. In the late '90s, they changed to a statewide system where every officer had a unique badge number. I got two of those. One to be worn on the uniform shirt and one for a coat or jacket. I usually wear one on my shirt or on my duty belt if I am just wearing a t-shirt in the summer. Yes, where I work(IDOC Impact Incarceration Program) we can take our uniform shirts off in weather above 80*F.

I never carry a badge when I am off duty. I know of some officers that carry one in an ID/badge type wallet. Usually, these are newer officers that are still real gung ho. The only time I have a badge off duty is when my duty belt or coat happens to be in the backseat of the truck.

The town I live in has an armed auxiliary. They mostly work parades, carnivals, and school sports events. They may be used in an emergency but they don't regularly act as substitute patrol cops like a part timer who is certified might. Our small "suburb" has a PD almost as large as the city PD(Pop. 900 vs. 6800) due to having the Super Walmart, Rural King, and the strip mall area. Their chief is a friend of mine who is a retired ISP trooper. He doesn't want anything to do with an auxiliary. Too many goobers and headaches in his opinion.
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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2013, 03:37:17 PM »

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« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2013, 05:12:21 PM »

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Are you in CAP?  Im assuming you are an LEO?  There are a lot of discussion that we have on there regarding LE issues as they pertain to CAP.  SOme of them get pretty good.   Id suggest saving your energy for one of those.  If you aren't a CAP member and joined CAPTalk just to go to battle over a thread that really has nothing to do with CAP its probably a waste of time.


Rob, check his status. Got his butt banned for being such a loud mouth pain.
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« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2013, 05:23:18 PM »

Haaaa OK :clap:
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« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2013, 06:00:10 PM »

Rob, check his status. Got his butt banned for being such a loud mouth pain.

I'm glad THAT is over.
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« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2013, 06:38:01 PM »

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« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2013, 07:55:09 PM »

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What took ya so long? ::)
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« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2013, 09:56:08 PM »

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What took ya so long? ::)

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« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2013, 03:35:43 PM »

Let's hope he doesn't make another account.

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