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[Майор Хаткевич]

As stated its the only place many can wear them.

[Angus]

Plumed hats, sashes & sabers for all!   

Why not add the cape and just go KofC Honor Guard.

KoFC would complain regarding "low light recognition".

Most KofC wouldn't mind.  Our honor guard for the most part is dwindling so someone may as well use a similar get up. 

[bflynn]

senior members restricted to the G/W uniform

Restricted?  I wear the aviator shirt because I'm in CAP.  I restrict myself from the AF uniform because I'm not in the AF.

[vento]

senior members restricted to the G/W uniform

Restricted?  I wear the aviator shirt because I'm in CAP.  I restrict myself from the AF uniform because I'm not in the AF.

Please don't take davedove's post out of context. I believe most of us know exactly what he meant and it is not the way you interpret it.  :angel:

[bflynn]

It isn't a matter of taking it out of context as much as disagreeing with what it represents.  We are CAP.  We should be proud of that and wear OUR uniform.  Yes, I recognize that we don't, we use the AF uniform as the default, then fall "back" to a non-AF uniform.

I fully recognize that isn't a popular viewpoint here.  But I think it is a healthy one to point out. 

[Storm Chaser]

Well, for those not allowed to wear the AF-style uniform, they are in a sense "restricted" to CAP corporate uniforms. Whether we should only have one CAP uniform and whether that uniform should be a CAP-specific or AF-style uniform is a different discussion altogether.

[Eclipse]

But I think it is a healthy one to point out.

Clearly.

I guess we just don't get it like you do.

[Maj Daniel Sauerwein]

I would love to see us gain approval to wear the flight cap with the grey/white aviator uniform, or the service cap.

I have seen new Senior Members wear the flight cap with the G/W uniform and it looks silly. Really no headgear goes well with the G/W uniform except the black or grey stetson of the TXWG   

I like it . I guess my feelings come from the discussion I had with a fellow member from my Wing. I mentioned that the old CSU would have been fine with me had they used the grey epaulets and name plate in the first place, but I digress. I just would love to have a more military looking headgear for that combination other than the baseball cap.

[ColonelJack]

I fully recognize that isn't a popular viewpoint here.   

From my experience, it's not only not a popular viewpoint here at CAPTalk, it's a viewpoint that is in the extreme minority in CAP overall.  That doesn't mean you aren't entitled to it; you are, of course.  But you do understand that very, very few CAP members across the organization agree with that viewpoint, don't you?

Jack

[bflynn]

But you do understand that very, very few CAP members across the organization agree with that viewpoint, don't you

Yes, of course.  Here covers both CAPTalk and CAP.  I think there are very few members open minded enough to hear and consider it.  But, based in part on the number of discussions about it here, I think there are far more than a few members whose "light appreciation" is the AF uniform, whether they are willing to acknowledge it or not. 

[Duke Dillio]

Berets for all!!!  Viva la resistance!!!

[Walkman]

Berets for all!!!  Viva la resistance!!!

If we get berets, they should be ANSI Class II spec so we can wear them on GT missions. 

[Eclipse]

Berets for all!!!  Viva la resistance!!!

If we get berets, they should be ANSI Class II spec so we can wear them on GT missions. 

Just an FYI, you will never look as cool as this guy:

[bflynn]

Berets for all!!!  Viva la resistance!!!

We had berets in ROTC - your ears are sunburned, there's no shade for your eyes and you're wearing a wool hat that stinks when it gets wet in the middle of summer.  But it IS stylish. 

[ColonelJack]

Berets?  Pfui!  Silly French hats!

Jack

[Storm Chaser]

I don't wear a beret, but I don't see the problem with them. The Air Force has them to designate special teams and/or specialties. They're not meant to be worn in the field. They're meant to be a tool for recognizing certain accomplishments or functions, just like shoulder cords. While some people may not like them, they're usually not the ones wearing them. So why make a big deal about them?

[FlyTiger77]

. While some people may not like them, they're usually not the ones wearing them.

I wore one and I really didn't like it, but that is a story for another day.

[Eclipse]

I don't wear a beret, but I don't see the problem with them. The Air Force has them to designate special teams and/or specialties.
They're meant to be a tool for recognizing certain accomplishments or functions, just like shoulder cords. While some people may not like them, they're usually not the ones wearing them. So why make a big deal about them?

Because what is being recognized generally comes with a lot more 'tude then is warranted.  Also this:

They're not meant to be worn in the field.

I agree, 100%, but that's basically the only place CAP is authorized to wear them (over BDU's).

[Storm Chaser]

Because what is being recognized generally comes with a lot more 'tude then is warranted.

Then that is the problem, no the beret itself.

I agree, 100%, but that's basically the only place CAP is authorized to wear them (over BDU's).

When I said "field", I really meant field as in when we do ES operations. That's not the only time we wear BDUs. But I don't see why berets couldn't be approved for wear with service uniforms.

BTW, I'm not promoting berets; I'm merely stating that the whole beret issue seems to be blown out of proportion at times.

[Майор Хаткевич]

Berets are a sore topic in most places. They don't add much, but are a lot of times linked with problem children...