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Question: Where are you at with your Professional Development?
Pre-Level I   -0 (0%)
Level I   -11 (28.9%)
Level II   -8 (21.1%)
Level III   -7 (18.4%)
Level IV   -9 (23.7%)
Level V   -3 (7.9%)
Total Members Voted: 36

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Pylon
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Michael Kieloch, Marketing Communications & PR Leadership
« on: April 05, 2005, 07:32:04 PM »

Out of sheer curiosity, I was wondering where various Senior Members are with their Professional Development.  Granted, this will vary greatly based on how long you've been in CAP but the poll doesn't allow for two variables.   
 
So post away.    :D
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Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP
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MIKE
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2005, 08:20:13 PM »

You forgot level V Mike.

I had to look at CAPR 50-17 'cause I couldn't remember if I was in level I or level II.  ???

Edit:  Upon further investigation, maybe I should have selected level II instead of level I because I have a Technician rating in two specialty tracks.  PD is way to confusing.  ???
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Mike Johnston
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2005, 09:51:58 PM »

I just completed Level II and I will have Level III completed as soon as I get  senior rating. I currently have three tech ratings (CP, Admin, and Comm).
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Mac
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 09:57:34 PM »

You forgot level V Mike.

I had to look at CAPR 50-17 'cause I couldn't remember if I was in level I or level II.  ???

Edit:  Upon further investigation, maybe I should have selected level II instead of level I because I have a Technician rating in two specialty tracks.  PD is way to confusing.  ???

I know 50-17 is confusing, but have you completed SLS, and AFDIL (ECI 13), with those and at least a Technician rating in a specialty track, then you have Level II completed. The Tech. rating only gets you the leadership ribbon. But, I have been doing this for almost 15 years and I still have to look it up because I get confused.
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Derk MacPherson, Maj, CAP
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MIKE
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2005, 10:10:57 PM »

You forgot level V Mike.

I had to look at CAPR 50-17 'cause I couldn't remember if I was in level I or level II.  ???

Edit:  Upon further investigation, maybe I should have selected level II instead of level I because I have a Technician rating in two specialty tracks.  PD is way to confusing.  ???

I know 50-17 is confusing, but have you completed SLS, and AFDIL (ECI 13), with those and at least a Technician rating in a specialty track, then you have Level II completed. The Tech. rating only gets you the leadership ribbon. But, I have been doing this for almost 15 years and I still have to look it up because I get confused.

Still waiting on SLS and AFIADL 13.  I checked E-Services and it shows me as having  completed level I and also lists my two Tech ratings.
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Mike Johnston
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2005, 10:35:13 PM »

Yeah it seems us seniors are always waiting on something, I need Region Staff College to complete level IV.

I guess I could always just do the AFIADL SOS course to get credit, but i think i would rather go to RSC.
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Derk MacPherson, Maj, CAP
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2005, 10:59:00 PM »

Yeah it seems us seniors are always waiting on something, I need Region Staff College to complete level IV.

I guess I could always just do the AFIADL SOS course to get credit, but i think i would rather go to RSC.


hmm... me too.  I'm doing SOS right now. 
and I thought ECI13 was dry...  :P
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Pylon
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Michael Kieloch, Marketing Communications & PR Leadership
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2005, 11:46:48 PM »

I'm at Level I, myself, though I have the specialty track (Cadet Programs) out of the way - I still have to find an SLS which seem to be extremely rare around these parts.  SLS's are so rare, in fact, I've already checked off my CLC and some other stuff, but no SLS yet.   ::)
 
 
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You forgot level V Mike.

Thanks - I put that in as soon as you posted about it.  :)
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Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP
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Major_Chuck
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2005, 12:31:16 PM »

I just need to complete National Staff College and I'm finished.
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Chuck Cranford
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Virginia Army National Guard
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2005, 12:34:20 AM »

Out of sheer curiosity, I was wondering where various Senior Members are with their Professional Development.  Granted, this will vary greatly based on how long you've been in CAP but the poll doesn't allow for two variables.   
 
So post away.    :D

This is so grim.
I can't even tell you if I "Have" or have not fully completed level 1.
Heading over to the knowledge base to go see what I was supposed to have accomplished by now...
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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London Bridge Composite Squadron 501
SWR-AZ-112,  Lake Havasu City, Arizona
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2005, 12:52:37 AM »

Looks like there is some kind of a "Level I Orientation Course quiz " that i have never come across. Will have to go hunt that down...
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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Mac
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2005, 07:21:34 AM »

The "Level I Orientation Course Quiz" is suppose to be taken after completing the Level I Orientation training (Video and Class), your best bet is to check on e-services and see if you a completion date for "ORIENT" and "CPPT" under Senior training, if so you should also have "LV1" showing completed under Senior Levels.

This can all be found in e-services under the "Interactive Personnel System" on the left side of the screen. Let me know if you need any help with it.
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Derk MacPherson, Maj, CAP
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2005, 10:36:37 AM »

The "Level I Orientation Course Quiz" is suppose to be taken after completing the Level I Orientation training (Video and Class), your best bet is to check on e-services and see if you a completion date for "ORIENT" and "CPPT" under Senior training, if so you should also have "LV1" showing completed under Senior Levels.

This can all be found in e-services under the "Interactive Personnel System" on the left side of the screen. Let me know if you need any help with it.

Shows ET-Senior, Level 1, 11/30/2004
ST CPPT  12/02/04
ST Orientation Course  11/30/04
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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London Bridge Composite Squadron 501
SWR-AZ-112,  Lake Havasu City, Arizona
Mac
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2005, 11:36:02 AM »

Shows ET-Senior, Level 1, 11/30/2004
ST CPPT  12/02/04
ST Orientation Course  11/30/04

Well then you have completed Level I and are ready to start working Level II, remember to have fun doing the training.
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Derk MacPherson, Maj, CAP
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2005, 09:34:29 PM »

Level 1

I have my Tech rating (Cadet Programs) and SLS completed.  I am working on AFDALI-13, along with 2 other Tech ratings.  The big thing that prevents me from getting my Senior rating in Cadet Programs is the TLC course.  Thats been the rare PD course.  I have never seen it offered around here.
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2005, 11:07:02 PM »

Well then you have completed Level I and are ready to start working Level II, remember to have fun doing the training.

It would probably be a whole lot more "FUN" if i wasn't doing all of it as independant home study..
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2005, 11:08:17 PM »

Level 1

I have my Tech rating (Cadet Programs) and SLS completed.  I am working on AFDALI-13, along with 2 other Tech ratings.  The big thing that prevents me from getting my Senior rating in Cadet Programs is the TLC course.  Thats been the rare PD course.  I have never seen it offered around here.

Don't feel alone.
Checked my wing schedule for all of 2005 and we are not offering one either..
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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arajca
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2005, 11:54:03 PM »

I haven't seen one offered in CO since I joined in '02. That and time in service is all I need for my CP-Senior.

I need to push paper to get my Admin Senior. I completed all the requirements, but I was waiting for my Level II to show up, which it did last month.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2005, 11:02:42 AM »

Showing my total naivete in these matters...

Just what does it take to get a wing to schedule a course that a member needs/wants to take??
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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Mac
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2005, 11:19:05 AM »

I gave up on wing, and just downloaded the slides and modified / updated them for my unit and gave the class myself.

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Derk MacPherson, Maj, CAP
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2005, 12:11:51 PM »

I gave up on wing, and just downloaded the slides and modified / updated them for my unit and gave the class myself.

I am on wing staff so I keep asking people about it.  I found out that the DCP needs to instruct it for his Master Rating.  I guess its just a matter of seeing how much time it takes and getting him to finally agree to doing it. 
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Camas
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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2005, 05:43:23 PM »

  One of the big challenges in wing-level professional development is finding people who are willing to step up to the plate and serve as course directors of both SLS and CLC.
   We've been lucky in our wing in the last year or so but it hasn't always been that way.  The wing DCP's basic responsibility is to ensure that these courses take place; he or she isn't necessarily required to be the course director.  Moreover, as most of our forum readers know, you need to either serve as an instructor or director for both Level IV and Level V.
  If you need the training, let your wing DPD know.  If you're interested in assisting in putting on the course; same thing.  Bottom line, people need to accept responsibilities as both course instructors and course directors.
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2005, 07:14:59 PM »

  One of the big challenges in wing-level professional development is finding people who are willing to step up to the plate and serve as course directors of both SLS and CLC.
   We've been lucky in our wing in the last year or so but it hasn't always been that way.  The wing DCP's basic responsibility is to ensure that these courses take place; he or she isn't necessarily required to be the course director.  Moreover, as most of our forum readers know, you need to either serve as an instructor or director for both Level IV and Level V.
  If you need the training, let your wing DCP know.  If you're interested in assisting in putting on the course; same thing.  Bottom line, people need to accept responsibilities as both course instructors and course directors.

I will say this much, the people that put on the SLS I just went to were MORE than eager to invite anyone who wanted to come back next year to serve on staff and help out. It should be no problem at all for someone who wants to meet that criterea to get an opportunity to instruct at one of these course. They were begging for help!
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2LT Christopher M. Parrett
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London Bridge Composite Squadron 501
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biZarre
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Minnesota Wing Cadet Programs
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2005, 02:43:53 PM »

I had a very positive experience being a co-director for a SLS a couple of years ago.  Two squadrons joined forces, with permission from the wing director of professional development, which gave us a large pool of members to serve as instructors.  It was good to have a variety of instructor, so the students were not locked in the same room with the same person all day. 

Natl Hq makes hosting the course easy, since the classes, handouts, and format are prepackaged, making course planning easy.  Although we almost ran short of graduation certificates, but were saved by a pervious director who has a small supply.

So with the director duties complete, and a short vacation in Alabama, (NSC), I was able to complete Level V in just under six years.  Just in time too, since I was able to complete the levels before getting married.  Now my week long CAP activities are a bit more complicated to schedule.  All in good time though.
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Doug Kilian, Lt Col, CAP
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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2005, 12:05:28 AM »

I just need to complete National Staff College and I'm finished.

Me too......maybe I will see you in October!
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Major_Chuck
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2005, 09:06:28 PM »

I just need to complete National Staff College and I'm finished.

Me too......maybe I will see you in October!

Probably will.  National has my registration, all I need to do is send them some $$$ to make it official.

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Chuck Cranford
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