New 52-22, thoughts?

[Eclipse]

I just checked the eligibility report.  Pretty much what I expected.

For our wing, the majority of the bases listed are out of state, though a number of the units are listed incorrectly.
(Unless the quantum tunnel is finished, Memphis ANGB is not closer to Peoria then Springfield).

For all our Northern units, where the majority of the membership is, they list Mitchell ANGB, which is not likely to provide support to
unit(s) in a different wing until all their units locally are participating.

As I said, for our wing, little has changed.  The rings might be larger, but the USAF/ANG bases and CAP units are still all in the same place.

List is here: http://capmembers.com/media/cms/List_of_Units_within_75_miles_Febru_E03528B970F32.xls

[Spaceman3750]

Eclipse, there is an ANG base in Springfield AND Peoria. I think they have tankers or some other heavy.

That quantum tunnel sounds cool though. Why Memphis is listed instead of PIA or SPI is beyond me.

[LGM30GMCC]

I just checked the eligibility report.  Pretty much what I expected.

For our wing, the majority of the bases listed are out of state, though a number of the units are listed incorrectly.
(Unless the quantum tunnel is finished, Memphis ANGB is not closer to Peoria then Springfield).

For all our Northern units, where the majority of the membership is, they list Mitchell ANGB, which is not likely to provide support to
unit(s) in a different wing until all their units locally are participating.

As I said, for our wing, little has changed.  The rings might be larger, but the USAF/ANG bases and CAP units are still all in the same place.

List is here: http://capmembers.com/media/cms/List_of_Units_within_75_miles_Febru_E03528B970F32.xls

Why would a base care about state lines? I am betting if they are close to the border they have plenty of their personnel that live in that other state. A good chunk (maybe 30-40%) of the young officers and some NCOs on my base live in a different state. One of the bigger squadrons in the country is (barely) within the range ring but I can see some definite benefit to either the ANG or Active Duty base here providing support. Of course that also asks the question if there is twice as much money if there is an active duty base, and an ANG base in the same town...

[Eclipse]

Eclipse, there is an ANG base in Springfield AND Peoria. I think they have tankers or some other heavy.

Yes, but in a CAP-location paradigm, they are functionally the same thing.

[Spaceman3750]

Eclipse, there is an ANG base in Springfield AND Peoria. I think they have tankers or some other heavy.

Yes, but in a CAP-location paradigm, they are functionally the same thing.

Now I'm confused since they're 60 or 70 miles apart and don't even do the same thing. Maybe we should take this to PM.

[Eclipse]

Why would a base care about state lines? I am betting if they are close to the border they have plenty of their personnel that live in that other state. A good chunk (maybe 30-40%) of the young officers and some NCOs on my base live in a different state. One of the bigger squadrons in the country is (barely) within the range ring but I can see some definite benefit to either the ANG or Active Duty base here providing support. Of course that also asks the question if there is twice as much money if there is an active duty base, and an ANG base in the same town...

Well, that'd be one of my questions.

If the funding doled out first-come / first served based on a unit simply being within the 75-mile ring of anything that fits the qualification, or is there allocation based on need / priority.

Does CAP administer those funds or does the local base?

If I'm a DDR administrator for wing #1, and I have any say in it, I'm not going to be happy that my money if draining out to a different wing to the South of the 75 mile ring when I have my own units to
the North.

[Eclipse]

Eclipse, there is an ANG base in Springfield AND Peoria. I think they have tankers or some other heavy.

Yes, but in a CAP-location paradigm, they are functionally the same thing.

Now I'm confused since they're 60 or 70 miles apart and don't even do the same thing. Maybe we should take this to PM.

Yes, but it's not like there's a bunch of CAP units down that way, so it's semi-irrelevant.

[Spaceman3750]

Eclipse, there is an ANG base in Springfield AND Peoria. I think they have tankers or some other heavy.

Yes, but in a CAP-location paradigm, they are functionally the same thing.

Now I'm confused since they're 60 or 70 miles apart and don't even do the same thing. Maybe we should take this to PM.

Yes, but it's not like there's a bunch of CAP units down that way, so it's semi-irrelevant.

True. One of the challenges we face is a population that is spread out significantly more than up your way, and in the non-major population centers the average family income is way too low to support a CAP unit.

But I digress...

[Eclipse]

^ An unfortunate reality, and not limited to your area.  The third largest city in the country has basically two units with a third that has struggled for years, and the entire metro area
has only about 15 units total (and that's being pretty generous with "metro").  8 million people and about 500 members.

My original point was that while it might bring some DDR funding to some units, doubling the circle probably won't mean much in most wings.  Not to mention that's just
slicing the same pie into smaller pieces.

To an earlier question - do funding requests all still have to go through the Wing DDRO or can they be made directly?

[Tim Medeiros]

Eclipse - we have two ANG facilities in my AOR alone. Both have units on base.

Yes - the wing's got your ANG base and Scott.

And that's pretty much it in the whole state, USAF-wise, other then possibly some small reserve centers that, at least under the old
program, didn't have enough personnel to qualify.  With the old rules, it had to be an active base.  Reserve centers required 150 assigned
personnel to qualify.

100 AF personnel actually, and that's for any location, not just reserves.