movie excerpts for SLS leadership: anyone got?

[dogboy]

I've been tasked to teach Intro to Leadership at SLS again. The curriculum now requires the use of excerpts from several films

GLORY, starring Matthew Broderick. TriStar Pictures, 1989
MIRACLE, starring Kurt Russell.  Walt Disney Pictures, 2004
THE RIGHT STUFF, starring Ed Harris, Warner Bros., 1983
RUDY, starring Sean Astin, TriStar Pictures, 1993

Since SLS is taught all the time, somebody must have compiled these excerpts already. Can that person share the compilation with me?

I can do it myself but it's a hassle and why re-invent the wheel?

Thanks in advance!

[abdsp51]

You can also use 12 O' Clock High, and The Long Grey Line.  Or if you want to get a little more up to date stuff you can use the Last Castle, Crimson Tide, or if you want something a little more up to date use Restrepo and The Hurt Locker.

[CAP4117]

..use Restrepo...

Amazing film! With the added benefit that it is a documentary, not fiction - good for real-life examples of leadership.

[dogboy]

You can also use 12 O' Clock High, and The Long Grey Line.  Or if you want to get a little more up to date stuff you can use the Last Castle, Crimson Tide, or if you want something a little more up to date use Restrepo and The Hurt Locker.

There's lots of suitable movies but we are supposed to follow the National curriculum. I've got my reservations about it myself but thems the orders.

"You can't be a leader until you learn to obey": attr: George Washington's mother.

[Eclipse]

I have the videos needed - will make them available to you after dinner.

I would not recommend using alternatives as there'd be no approved discussion points, etc., to go with them.

[ßτε]

See this post: http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=16152.msg291028#msg291028

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0E01FCB8EC393007&feature=plcp

[Private Investigator]

I have the videos needed - will make them available to you after dinner.

I would not recommend using alternatives as there'd be no approved discussion points, etc., to go with them.

Roger that. We are teaching a class and not watching movies   

[CAP4117]

I need to RTFP! I thought the OP was asking for movie ideas, didn't know SLS had a set list. *facepalm* 

[abdsp51]

Well without knowing that there was set curriculum my apologies and you can find plenty of leadership topics in those films and use as a discussion point.  Did they get rid of the clip with McChrystal speaking?

[unmlobo]

When I taught Cadet Leadership classes one of my favorites was "In Pursuit of Honor".  Great film for moral leadership and doing what is right even if it is "unpopular".   My wife used it for some of the JDCLE's in 06 and 07. 

[Flying Pig]

I went to SLS probably 15 years ago.  We didnt watch any movies.  What are they used for at SLS?

[Eclipse]

I went to SLS probably 15 years ago.  We didnt watch any movies.  What are they used for at SLS?

The new curriculum is no longer "Captain Ropedintothisatthelatminute reading a slide about a department
he didn't even know existed within CAP", it is a discussion based situation with the slides being high-level starting points.

The movies are played as examples of leadership styles. 

[Private Investigator]

The movies are played as examples of leadership styles.

Exactly ...

Most students get it but every now and then you'll have somebody suggest, "how about 'Red Dawn', Patrick Swayze really took charge against those commies!!!"

[Майор Хаткевич]

SLS wasn't really all about leadership (that was more OBC for me). We also didn't have the movie cuts, but most had seen them, so we discussed them. You would think NHQ can secure the rights to the excepts they want and attach them to the online resources for the course...

[dogboy]

See this post: http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=16152.msg291028#msg291028

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0E01FCB8EC393007&feature=plcp

Thanks. A great help.

It's not so easy to download from You Tube anymore. I use "NetVideoHunter" with Firefox

http://netvideohunter.com/ 

which works well until You Tube again changes their protocol to make downloading harder.

Personally, I would like to show "The Caine Mutiny"

[dogboy]

Thanks. A great help.

It's not so easy to download from You Tube anymore. I use "NetVideoHunter" with Firefox

http://netvideohunter.com/ 

which works well until You Tube again changes their protocol to make downloading harder.

Personally, I would like to show "The Caine Mutiny"

I fact I think I will show this excerpt:

Caine Mutiny - Meeting After the Trial

This is the moral of the film, that sometimes a commander has serious problems. It doesn't matter, he's the commander. You work with him whether you like, or even, respect him or not.

BTW, in the Pulitzer Prize winning book, this scene is much more dramatic. The lawyer who accuses the officers of not supporting Queeg but has defended Maryk successfully is a Jew. He realizes how important the war is and how Queeg served hard years of it chasing subs in the Atlantic before he got the Caine.

Here's Greenwald:

"Course I'm warped," said Greenwald, "and I'm drunk, but it suddenly seems to me that if I wrote a war novel I'd try to make a hero out of Old Yellowstain." Jorgensen whooped loudly, but nobody else laughed, and the ensign subsided, goggling around. "No, I'm serious, I would. Tell you why, Tell you how I'm warped. I'm a Jew, guess most of you know that. Name's Greenwald, kind of look like one, and I sure am one, from way back. Jack Challee said I used smart Jew-lawyer tactics--course he took it back, apologized, after I told him a few things he didn't know-- Well, anyway...The reason I'd make Old Yellowstain a hero is on account of my mother, little gray-headed Jewish lady, fat, looks a lot like Mrs. Maryk here, meaning no offense."

He actually said "offensh." His speech was halting and blurry. He was gripping the spilling glass tightly The scars On his hand made red rims around the bluish grafted skin.

"Well, sure, you guys all have mothers, but they wouldn't be in the same bad shape mine would if we'd of lost this war, which of course we aren't, we've won the [darn] thing by now. See, the Germans aren't kidding about the Jew. They're cooking us down to soap over there. They think we're vermin and should be terminated and our corpses turned into something useful. Granting the premise--being warped, I don't, but granting the premise, soap is as good an idea as any. But I just can't cotton to the idea of my mom melted down into a bar of soap. I had an uncle and an aunt in Cracow, who are soap now, but that's different, I never saw my uncle and aunt, just saw letters in Jewish from them, ever since I was a kid, but I can't read Jewish." but never could read them. Jew, but I can't read Jewish.


So, turn off the TV and read the novel. It's one of the great books about WWII and military life in general.

[JeffDG]

One item, if you choose to use other clips, check with your legal officer to ensure that you have copyright clearance for "exhibition" of copyright material.

[dogboy]

One item, if you choose to use other clips, check with your legal officer to ensure that you have copyright clearance for "exhibition" of copyright material.

This is incorrect.

"Copyright clearance", by which I assume you mean permission from the copyright holder is unnecessary if one meets the standards for "fair use" under law.

http://www.teachwithmovies.org/copyright.html

Two basic principles:

1. if purchased or rented a whole movie can shown in a classroom

2. Snippets of movies can be shown in the classrooms of public schools and non-profit educational institutions without a license pursuant to Section 110(1) of Title 17.  "Fair Use" is limited to relatively small portions of copyrighted materials used for criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.

[EMT-83]

There is no need to use other clips; deliver the course as it was designed.

It is more appropriate to spend time and energy on presenting a well-run course which conforms to national standards than waste it making local changes.

[Eclipse]

One item, if you choose to use other clips, check with your legal officer to ensure that you have copyright clearance for "exhibition" of copyright material.

There is no option to "choose other clips".  This is a nationally standardized curriculum.

Whether something else is "better" is irrelevant.