Why aren't there (more) decorations with horizontal stripes?

Started by Eclipse, December 07, 2012, 03:18:17 PM

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lordmonar

Back in the day....the USAF's Promotion Fitness Exam Study Guid show the Armed Forces Expiditonary Medal backwards.....this last 2-3 printings.  I only discovered it when I baught my first mess dress and noticed the hanging medal had the red/whit/blue stripes the other way around.

Also you see the Kuwaiti Liberation medal and Kosovo War Medal put on backwards from time to time.

As for Horzontal stripes....personally I think they don't look that good....and would steer away from them if I had any say in the matter.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

BuckeyeDEJ

Seems to me that the horizontally striped ribbons do NOT translate into medals, so this isn't a problem. Remember, unlike in CAP, in the Real Military, not every ribbon has a medal or miniature medal corresponding to it. Unit citations and ribbons called "ribbons" don't, so they can go horizontal all day and it means nothing. Now, if it was a DSM or a DFC or a MOH, don't think for a second they'd go horizontal. They have long stretches of those colors to make, too!


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SarDragon

Quote from: ol'fido on December 08, 2012, 04:35:30 PM
Don't want to be a master of the obvious, but the ribbons with the horizontal stripes, Army Reserve Overseas Training and N/MC Presidential Unit Citation are just that. They are ribbons that have no corresponding medal. As LGM.... said, you can make a ribbon from a vertical ribbon easier than a horizontal one.

Dave, did they weave the propellers, etc. on the ribbon or just print them on the cloth? I haven't looked at mine in a while.

Absolutely woven in. I still have all my olde cartoon ribbons, and the weaving is obvious when you look at the backs.
Dave Bowles
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AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
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ol'fido

Lt. Col. Randy L. Mitchell
Historian, Group 1, IL-006

Brad

Quote from: GroundHawg on December 09, 2012, 02:45:47 AM
One of my state awards is the Kentucky Recruiting Ribbon, aka the Blue Falcon Ribbon, made of horizontal stripes. Unlike the ARCOTR which cant be put on incorrectly, this one is red white and blue and is almost always worn incorrectly upside down. I think its strange that the ribbon is worn blue/white/red instead of red/white/blue.

I'm wanting to say it's a heraldry thing, but the darker color is usually worn up or pointing to the right when compared to the lighter color on asymmetric ribbons. Case in point the Leadership Award, Membership Award, the Air Force Kosovo War Medal, the NJROTC Physical Training Ribbon, etc. etc. One notable exception being the GRW award, which is just a flipover of the old National Commander Citation. Guess they were too lazy to design a new one.

As to the original question of why there aren't more horizontal ribbons, the thought of medal drapes is what popped into my head almost instantly. Considering that CAP has miniature medals for every ribbon, imagine how much more expensive they would be due to the extra steps needed to make it, owing to the folding of the fabric and such. Plus think how awful it would look when worn...
Brad Lee
Maj, CAP
Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, Communications
Mid-Atlantic Region
K4RMN

MSG Mac

Quote from: GroundHawg on December 09, 2012, 02:45:47 AM
One of my state awards is the Kentucky Recruiting Ribbon, aka the Blue Falcon Ribbon, made of horizontal stripes. Unlike the ARCOTR which cant be put on incorrectly, this one is red white and blue and is almost always worn incorrectly upside down. I think its strange that the ribbon is worn blue/white/red instead of red/white/blue.

In Heraldry blue is the "senior" color
Michael P. McEleney
Lt Col CAP
MSG USA (Retired)
50 Year Member

ol'fido

Lt. Col. Randy L. Mitchell
Historian, Group 1, IL-006

Brad

Brad Lee
Maj, CAP
Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, Communications
Mid-Atlantic Region
K4RMN

SarDragon

Well, I just dissected a Navy PUC. It is woven with the stripes vertical, to a narrower width than a regular ribbon. It's cut to the correct size, and assembled on the bar.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

Texas Raiders

It's easy.  Horizontal stripes make you look fat, while vertical stripes make you look taller!   >:D
SM Randy Patterson
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